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Walmart Reduces Drug Prices, People Bitch
« on: September 23, 2006, 05:35:45 AM »
So Walmart is slashing prices on many of its prescription drugs. This should help the "economically disadvantaged" right? But people are complaining because it's not ALL the drugs Walmart sells and it's not giving enough of a discount to people who already freaking have health insurance. I bet if they gave the drugs away for free people would still complain. Evil evil capitalism at work.....

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http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2006/09/22/hscout535097.html

Wal-Mart's Generic-Drug Plan Draws Mixed Reactions
09.22.06, 12:00 AM ET

FRIDAY, Sept. 22 (HealthDay News) -- Wal-Mart's announcement that it will begin selling 300 generic prescription drugs for as little as $4 for a 30-day supply will undoubtedly benefit many Americans, some health-industry experts say.

But other experts contend that the program, scheduled to start Friday in Tampa, Fla., and then roll out across the country sometime next year, probably won't prove to be a revolutionary step in the push to contain soaring health-care costs for consumers in the United States.

In fact, some critics are labeling the program little more than a public relations stunt by the nation's largest retailer. Others point out that the new plan omits some key drugs.

Wal-Mart's move "underscores the need for cost-effective medications to help Americans struggling with spiraling prescription drug prices," Gail Shearer, health policy director for Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports, said Thursday in a prepared statement.

"There is a critical need in this country for low-cost, effective prescription drugs because millions of people are going without needed medications simply because they can't afford them," she added. "Generic drugs are a vital piece in the puzzle to bring down health care costs. They are just as effective and safe than most high-priced, heavily advertised drugs,"

"This decision by Wal-Mart hopefully will encourage more competition in the drug marketplace that will lead to lower drug prices overall," Shearer said.

Wal-Mart's announcement Thursday -- that it would lower the costs of generics that usually run between $10 and $30 for a one-month supply -- seemed to have exactly that effect in the marketplace.

On Friday, Target, the nation's No. 2 discount retailer, said it would match Wal-Mart's lower prices for generic prescription drugs in the Tampa area immediately.

It was not clear, however, if Target would expand the program beyond Tampa, although the company said it has a "long-standing practice to be price competitive with Wal-Mart."

Still, some find the Wal-Mart move wanting.

The program actually includes only about 124 separate medicines in various dosages, and omits such popular drugs as the generic version of the cholesterol-lowering treatment Zocor, The New York Times reported Friday.

And while people without health insurance will certainly save some money, those with health insurance may save only a dollar, which could make a trip to a Wal-Mart store not worth the time.

"It is not as significant as it first seems, in our opinion," Joseph Agnese, an analyst at Standard & Poors, told the Times.

Most of the drugs on Wal-Mart's list are older generics that are relatively inexpensive already, Stephen Schondelmeyer, professor of pharmaceutical economics at the University of Minnesota, told the Chicago Tribune.

And the covered drugs also don't include the generic equivalents of such widely used drugs as Zocor and the antidepressant Zoloft. Both drugs' patents expire this year, the newspaper said.

"This isn't addressing what is the source of people's frustrations with drug prices," Schondelmeyer told the Tribune. "This is a very limited set of drugs. It's a lot of hype and will create a lot of traffic going into Wal-Mart stores. But I think people are going to be disappointed when they go into the stores and find out their drug isn't there."

Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a health-care watchdog group, called Wal-Mart's announcement part of the company's public-relations campaign to bolster its image. The company has been a target of criticism for the health benefits it offers employees, with some contending the benefits cost too much.

"I think what Wal-Mart is doing is a limited good thing," Pollack said. "Clearly, this limited, positive initiative is as much a part of Wal-Mart's public-relations efforts to blunt the deserved criticism of its poor health coverage for its workers as it is a substantive improvement."

Patricia Wilson of Associates & Wilson, a Rosemont, Pa., health-care consulting firm, said Wal-Mart apparently plans to finance the drug program by taking some of the profits from traditional middlemen to lower the prices it is charging for the generic drugs.

"There is a huge profit margin in the generics" for the middlemen like pharmacy-benefit managers, the distributors and the pharmacies themselves, Wilson told the Times.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 06:24:08 AM »
I NEED food, water, electricity, gas and sex.  Shouldn't someone else pay for it?
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 06:36:50 AM »
Some folks would gripe were they hanged with a new rope.

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2006, 07:01:29 AM »
hey I work for walgreens and its driving stock down I have a right to gripe about it Tongue

But seriously I think it is because it is just enough to say it without lying but so few drugs that it is misleading to people.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 05:49:45 PM »
It can end up being good and bad. Iwas unemployed from Oct 15, 2004 till just before Mar  1 of this yr. I worked till May 26 when I had a bad heart attack. the day I left the hospital I spent &650 on scripts. I returned to work parttime 4 weeks ago. Two weeks ago I went in to the hospital again on an emergency basis and was diagnosed with lymphoma in the colon. I have been  paying for all my scripts out of what I saved in the 2 months I worked. That money was saved to pay Uncle Sam his share. I've spent less than $300 on things not related to food,drugs or other necessities in that time. My savuings have dropped from almost 6K to less than 2K. Most of that was to pay for the 8 scripts I take daily. Unfortunately for me only one of the drugs I take is a generic but if I could get generic forms I would. $4/mon vs $60 to 100/month sure would be nice and stretch. Note in that amount spent there are no house or car payments--both are paid for.

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2006, 06:27:31 AM »
[vitriol]Wal-Mart would probably make more money if they kept the "economically disadvantaged" alive so that they can keep buying massive amounts of hot dogs, regular soda, ciggies, and cheese puffs.[/vitriol]

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2006, 01:09:22 PM »
Reality  is if WalMart is successful with generic scripts the next move is toward name brand stuff.  I for one am glad to see it happen.  The drug economy has developed some serious distortions courtesy of fed.gov.  A major, aggressive distributor will go a long way in correcting the marketplace.  WalMart is merely the first.  No doubt Target will follow as will KMart (or what is left of KMart).  WalMart's business model is made to order for deeply discounted drugs.  It is a major outting to go to WalMart.  If you are attracted there to begin with you might as well hand around and spend more money on that other stuff you need also.  

I am predicting WalMart will have a serious, positive effect on the price of drugs in this country.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2006, 02:33:18 PM »
I loved how they whined about 'common generics' not being included on the list.

Hello?  Maybe those drugs cost more to manufacture and/or Walmart wasn't able to browbeat the manufacturers down enough to still be able to make a profit on the cheaper prices.

Does anybody seriously think that walmart is going to be losing money with these drugs, even seriously discounted?

Quote from: HealthDay News
Most of the drugs on Wal-Mart's list are older generics that are relatively inexpensive already, Stephen Schondelmeyer, professor of pharmaceutical economics at the University of Minnesota, told the Chicago Tribune.
If they're selling them for about the same price as aspirin, it'd better be 'relativlely inexpensive'.  Otherwise they'd be selling them at a loss, and how we'd hear the screams then!

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And the covered drugs also don't include the generic equivalents of such widely used drugs as Zocor and the antidepressant Zoloft. Both drugs' patents expire this year, the newspaper said.
I thought generics don't generally come out before the patent expires?  Even then, as the good professor mentioned, most of the discounts are on 'older cheaper' medications.  If the patent is about to expire, it's still not what I'd call 'older'.  If the patent is still in force, any generics are going to have to be paying royalties to the primary manufacturer, which takes out 'cheaper'.

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I am predicting WalMart will have a serious, positive effect on the price of drugs in this country.
I hope so too.  I think that this, combined with Healthcare savings accounts will have a positive effect on dropping drug prices.  Combine consumers who actually care what they spend on healthcare and a retailer willing to undersell the compitition to attract them and we have the free market working the way it's supposed to.

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2006, 02:56:06 PM »
Wal-Mart decides to not offer layaway... people bitch (even though Wal-Mart is one of the last companies to offer Layaway)
Wal-Mart opens a new store... people bitch
Wal-Mart closes a store... people bitch

Its sad how many people bitch about Wal-Mart no matter what they do. I just don't understand it.