Author Topic: What should you do if confronted by a gunman? (Read 2178 times)

MillCreek · « **on:** June 12, 2014, 08:28:04 AM »

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2023823472_apxfightorflightqa.html

Not a bad article, in the big scheme of things.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #1 on:** June 12, 2014, 08:41:58 AM »

Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back!

T.O.M. · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2014, 08:51:13 AM »

ALICE training is a big deal lately at my work. Pushing (but not requiring) people to attend. A key component is to find something around you that you can use as a weapon. If it's all the same, I'll use what I brought from home...usually on my right hip. I understand that for a lot of these trainers, they are told not to recommend carrying a firearm, but can't we be honest? I'd rather have a gun during a gunfight than try to use my desk chair as an improvised weapon.

brimic · « **Reply #3 on:** June 12, 2014, 09:24:05 AM »

Guns are bad Mmmkay.

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When a gunman menaced a small Seattle college, a student pepper-sprayed the attacker, ending his rampage. Police say his actions probably saved lives.

When an armed couple who had already killed two police officers entered a Las Vegas Wal-Mart, a shopper with a concealed weapon tried to confront them and got killed. Police say he died "trying to protect others."

Nice cherry picking of examples.

charby · « **Reply #4 on:** June 12, 2014, 09:35:09 AM »

Quote from: Chris on June 12, 2014, 08:51:13 AM

ALICE training is a big deal lately at my work. Pushing (but not requiring) people to attend. A key component is to find something around you that you can use as a weapon. If it's all the same, I'll use what I brought from home...usually on my right hip. I understand that for a lot of these trainers, they are told not to recommend carrying a firearm, but can't we be honest? I'd rather have a gun during a gunfight than try to use my desk chair as an improvised weapon.

I did an ALICE program last month at work.

Ben · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2014, 09:40:14 AM »

Yeah, I'm down with the Alice Program.

AJ Dual · « **Reply #6 on:** June 12, 2014, 11:30:58 AM »

Yeah, I have to make do with the Keltec P32 and CTC laser, the Kershaw 4" folder, and the Uzi pen I carry when I'm at places where I have to be unarmed.

KD5NRH · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2014, 12:07:41 PM »

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When an armed couple who had already killed two police officers entered a Las Vegas Wal-Mart, a shopper with a concealed weapon tried to confront them and got killed. Police say he died "trying to protect others."

An excellent argument for being more trigger happy; in a situation like this, don't confront. Examine the situation while moving to cover. After as much assessment as conditions will allow, quietly draw, carefully aim, and drop the gunman with a headshot from behind.

Fly320s · « **Reply #8 on:** June 12, 2014, 01:00:05 PM »

Quote from: KD5NRH on June 12, 2014, 12:07:41 PM

An excellent argument for being more trigger happy; in a situation like this, don't confront. Examine the situation while moving to cover. After as much assessment as conditions will allow, quietly draw, carefully aim, and drop the gunman with a headshot from behind.

Exactly. No need to play by the rules.

Triphammer · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2014, 09:42:36 PM »

Rules?

Fitz · « **Reply #10 on:** June 12, 2014, 09:46:52 PM »

Quote from: Fly320s on June 12, 2014, 01:00:05 PM

Exactly. No need to play by the rules.

This.

I hope i'm never in a situation like that. But if i am, i'm going for the stealthy kill from behind.

seeker_two · « **Reply #11 on:** June 13, 2014, 06:40:22 AM »

Quote from: KD5NRH on June 12, 2014, 12:07:41 PM

An excellent argument for being more trigger happy; in a situation like this, don't confront. Examine the situation while moving to cover. After as much assessment as conditions will allow, quietly draw, carefully aim, and drop the gunman with a headshot from behind.

Agreed.....you can yell "FREEZE" after you shoot them.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #12 on:** June 13, 2014, 09:07:34 AM »

In this case it was not the one he confronted that got him. Don't get tunnel vision

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KD5NRH · « **Reply #13 on:** June 13, 2014, 09:38:10 AM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on June 13, 2014, 09:07:34 AM

In this case it was not the one he confronted that got him. Don't get tunnel vision

I doubt they were completely ignoring each other; in the few seconds to observe and move to cover, there probably would have been some interaction to clue him in to the second one. Even if not, he would most likely have had the first down and done before he was shot.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #14 on:** June 13, 2014, 01:25:16 PM »

Quote from: seeker_two on June 13, 2014, 06:40:22 AM

Agreed.....you can yell "FREEZE" after you shoot them.

Wouldn't it be more ... "accurate" to yell "DIE!" after you shot them? ? ? ? ? ? ?

brimic · « **Reply #15 on:** June 13, 2014, 01:27:26 PM »

Quote from: TommyGunn on June 13, 2014, 01:25:16 PM

Wouldn't it be more ... "accurate" to yell "DIE!" after you shot them? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Sheesh, doesn't anyone do anything right??
You yell "Die" as you are slicing a hunk off their scalp.

Tallpine · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2014, 02:25:53 PM »

Quote from: brimic on June 13, 2014, 01:27:26 PM

...yell "Die" as you are slicing a hunk off their scalp.

It was a good shoot right up until you scalped him

KD5NRH · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2014, 04:07:21 PM »

Quote from: Grumpy Old Man on June 13, 2014, 02:25:53 PM

It was a good shoot right up until you scalped him

This. Drag the corpse to the nearest taxidermist.

brimic · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2014, 04:39:51 PM »

Quote from: Grumpy Old Man on June 13, 2014, 02:25:53 PM

It was a good shoot right up until you scalped him

Well since the shooting part was over, I figured......

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2014, 09:01:48 PM »

Quote from: KD5NRH on June 13, 2014, 09:38:10 AM

I doubt they were completely ignoring each other; in the few seconds to observe and move to cover, there probably would have been some interaction to clue him in to the second one. Even if not, he would most likely have had the first down and done before he was shot.

My understanding was she was behind and to the side. Plus men tend to not see women as as much a threat as the big guy with the gun out

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RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2014, 09:14:10 PM »

Quote from: Grumpy Old Man on June 13, 2014, 02:25:53 PM

It was a good shoot right up until you scalped him

Some people have no respect for tradition.

Tallpine · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2014, 09:46:50 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on June 13, 2014, 09:14:10 PM

Some people have no respect for tradition.

A few topknots go well with your CCW badge

BryanP · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2014, 08:35:18 PM »

Good article. Depending on where I am I'm carrying pepper spray, a S&W 649, or both. Running away if you have the option isn't bad advice.

seeker_two · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2014, 10:22:24 PM »

Quote from: TommyGunn on June 13, 2014, 01:25:16 PM

Wouldn't it be more ... "accurate" to yell "DIE!" after you shot them? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Only if you're German....and only if you say "FLIEDERMAUS" immediately afterward...

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TommyGunn · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2014, 11:00:21 PM »

Quote from: seeker_two on June 14, 2014, 10:22:24 PM

Only if you're German....and only if you say "FLIEDERMAUS" immediately afterward...

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Isn't "Fliedermaus" a bat? / Yeah I just checked my German dictionary, a fliedermaus is a bat.
Do you have something against bats?

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