Walking dead season 5 (Spoilers)

[Angel Eyes]

My gut says that where this will depart from the comic is there is something more to Alexandria than meets the eye. And in the comics, Alexandria eventually fell.

One possible twist: not everyone in Rick's group passes the audition.  Then the group will have to decide whether or not to stick together.

[K Frame]

Yep, they cleared route 16, but not 23...

That would be great if they were in far, far, and I mean FAR fricking western Virginia and were pretty much headed over the Blue Ridge into Kentucky.

Not so great for getting anywhere near "Alexandria."

And there is NOWHERE in Virginia that they could have gotten that view out of the window of the RV. The elevation was far too high. There are a few places on the Virginia side that are a little higher, than the Washington side, but nothing like that.

I THINK in the comic they go to Alexandria city, which has been cordoned off. If they were that close to be able to see DC as they were, they were a lot more than half way there. They were almost there.

[Jamisjockey]

One possible twist: not everyone in Rick's group passes the audition.  Then the group will have to decide whether or not to stick together.

OOOOOhhh I like the way you think.

[BryanP]

Watching the show and reading the comic, I know they can't just do everything sensibly. The plot would be boring if they did. But geez I can't believe how many of them go toe to toe with the walkers with small meelee weapons like a knife.  The first thing I'd re-invent would be spears with those cross guards that keep whatever you've speared from pushing up to you. If I had better resources, I'd make halberds.

[K Frame]

Always said that Michone has it right.

[Ben]

Always said that Michone has it right.

I saw Rick was using a sword or machete in this week's episode as well. I'm also in the "why are they using knives?" camp. Even if you wanna be a bad ass, or even if getting zombie juice on you won't infect you, why the heck do you want the gore and smell all over you (other than for camouflage when sneaking through a hoard)?

[Angel Eyes]

I saw Rick was using a sword or machete in this week's episode as well. I'm also in the "why are they using knives?" camp. Even if you wanna be a bad ass, or even if getting zombie juice on you won't infect you, why the heck do you want the gore and smell all over you (other than for camouflage when sneaking through a hoard)?

I thought the intent was to conserve ammunition (although I agree that spears would be a really good idea, and isn't there at least one M44 in the group?  Extend that bayonet and have at 'em).

[Ben]

I thought the intent was to conserve ammunition (although I agree that spears would be a really good idea, and isn't there at least one M44 in the group?  Extend that bayonet and have at 'em).

Yeah, sorry, I should have been more concise. They're conserving ammo, but choosing a poor weapon to do so.

[mtnbkr]

The whole thing is apparently filmed in a very small slice of Georgia, so no surprise about the sandy soil and pine woods.

And yes, I had the exact same thought about water, Chris. You generally can't go for more than a few miles in this area without crossing a body of water of some type.

Noah's house was supposedly in Richmond, so they'd be coming up roughly the 95 corridor. 60 miles south of DC would be down around the Falmouth area, a bit south of that, actually.

A look at google maps shows just how frigging much water they would be crossing, and how much they would be passing. Most of it wouldn't be visible from 95, but they would notice the streams they would be going over.

Oh, and what's the very best thing to do when you're dehydrated? Marching down the middle of a sun-baked highway in the full sun. 

Yep, they cleared route 16, but not 23...

That would be great if they were in far, far, and I mean FAR fricking western Virginia and were pretty much headed over the Blue Ridge into Kentucky.

Not so great for getting anywhere near "Alexandria."

And there is NOWHERE in Virginia that they could have gotten that view out of the window of the RV. The elevation was far too high. There are a few places on the Virginia side that are a little higher, than the Washington side, but nothing like that.

I THINK in the comic they go to Alexandria city, which has been cordoned off. If they were that close to be able to see DC as they were, they were a lot more than half way there. They were almost there.

Yeah, I know it's not filmed in VA, but it's so far off from the terrain and geography of Central to Northern VA, it's distracting.

Chris

[K Frame]

Yeah, I know it's not filmed in VA, but it's so far off from the terrain and geography of Central to Northern VA, it's distracting.

Chris

SUSPEND YOUR BELIEF!

[gunsmith]

I actually think the gayzor thing indicates safety.  They get to be all lovey dovey and be themselves.  Which makes me think that despite the best laid defenses, there is some kind of softness to the Alexandria group that will make them vulnerable.
And everytime this group has been comfortable for too long...that comes to a violent end.

in the preview the new group tells the ricktators they have to disarm, indicating they're up to no good or stupid.
I'm going with simpleminded liberals that have not learned yet just how dangerous it truly is out there

[SADShooter]

Watching the show and reading the comic, I know they can't just do everything sensibly. The plot would be boring if they did. But geez I can't believe how many of them go toe to toe with the walkers with small meelee weapons like a knife.  The first thing I'd re-invent would be spears with those cross guards that keep whatever you've speared from pushing up to you. If I had better resources, I'd make halberds.

Boar spear. An aluminum pool vacuum/net handle filed to a point, or a shovel/rake haft with a spike lashed to it, would make more sense than using a knife in hand.

[erictank]

in the preview the new group tells the ricktators they have to disarm, indicating they're up to no good or stupid.
I'm going with simpleminded liberals that have not learned yet just how dangerous it truly is out there

They seem to be letting Daryl keep the crossbow, and no one seems to be turning in edged weapons. Only the guns are on the "turn 'em in when you're in town" list. Kinda Old-West of them, and not necessarily the smartest thing in the world.

[SADShooter]

They seem to be letting Daryl keep the crossbow, and no one seems to be turning in edged weapons. Only the guns are on the "turn 'em in when you're in town" list. Kinda Old-West of them, and not necessarily the smartest thing in the world.

Reliance on exterior barriers with no interior defense. This is bad juju. I suspect it will have plot ramifications...

[TommyGunn]

Those two alpha twerps who wanna call all the shots are gonna cause problems ..... 

[Jamisjockey]

Aye.  Lots of potential for things to get sideways. 

[Angel Eyes]

Those two alpha twerps who wanna call all the shots are gonna cause problems ..... 

Yup.  The mall ninja is strong with those two.

Rick's comment at the end about possibly taking control of Alexandria got my attention.  Is this setting up a situation with Rick as a counterpoint to the Governor in Woodbury?   Rick is much more benign, but I can see how he might go down a similar path, taking control because he feels it's necessary for his group's survival.

[Jamisjockey]

Okay so my gut says a couple things are coming up

1) Girl sneaking off into the woods.  why?  The Congresswoman mentioned exiling a couple men.  Could one have been her father or boyfriend?  She taking supplies to them?
2) We know there is an outside group.  Maybe she's the insider/spy for that group.
3)  My gut says that group will try to take Alexandria.  The defense is weak but Rick leads the way and saves the place, thus leading to a coup.
4) Next season the walls come down.

[HankB]

Who took the gun Rick hid in the black container outside the walls?

[erictank]

Why are the supports for the walls OUTSIDE the walls?

[41magsnub]

Why are the supports for the walls OUTSIDE the walls?

The congresswoman's husband was an engineer, she didn't say he was a good one.

[gunsmith]

Who took the gun Rick hid in the black container outside the walls?

imo blender gun was taken by one of the exiles, he also left the walker hidden under the rug as a trap...not a very nice thing to do.

[Angel Eyes]

imo blender gun was taken by one of the exiles, he also left the walker hidden under the rug as a trap...not a very nice thing to do.

Interesting point.

I wonder if the exiles are affiliated with the group that attacked the other neighborhood (I can't remember the name; the one where Tyreese was bitten).  I figure it's only a matter of time before they hit Alexandria.

[Ben]

I'm pretty sure some of them know something is up, or are at least heavily on guard. Daryl outwardly, and I think Carol was doing the total "throwing them off the trail" thing with her Suzie Homemaker interview talking about how much she missed her dead, abusive husband, etc. Also, it looked like she was fumbling her rifle when she put it on the cart, as if to look amateur. Rick, Carol, and Daryl seem to be in clandestine cahoots.

[mtnbkr]

Considering her origins, Carol's recent actions illustrate very well that she's "born again hard". 

Chris