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Dog bites man
« on: January 11, 2015, 01:02:35 AM »

Illinois LEOs report that their CCW law has, like, not screwed things up.  :O  :O  :O

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2015-01-03/authorities-call-year-old-concealed-carry-law-non-event.html

Now, in which 49 other states have we heard that before?
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 02:26:58 PM »
<waves hand>

I know!  I know!

We did manage to learn a little bit from the experience of all 49 other states.  Precious little.
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2015, 02:21:17 AM »
But, but WILD WEST, STREETS FLOWING WITH BLOOD!!!
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 02:24:16 AM »
There's an epidemic of accidental shootings!
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2015, 06:25:15 AM »
What's interesting is that they expected higher numbers but got only about 1/4. But on further investigation, it is a 16 hour class and costs about $450....
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 06:57:58 AM »
What's interesting is that they expected higher numbers but got only about 1/4. But on further investigation, it is a 16 hour class and costs about $450....

Just more evidence that gun control is really about disarming the poor.

I recall reading some comments on a news article, back before the law went into effect, wherein they argued about allowing carry on mass transit. You could tell that the anti's just assumed everybody would have a permit, and actually use it (and everybody on the El would have a gunz!!!1111). Maybe there was some of that misconception at work, too.
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015, 11:14:42 AM »
What's interesting is that they expected higher numbers but got only about 1/4. But on further investigation, it is a 16 hour class and costs about $450....

As things lean out for the instructors, cost of classes has been going down.  I've seen it as low as $125 for the full 16 hours.
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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 04:05:10 PM »
RKL beat me to it, but it amuses me so much I have to repeat it:

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Re: Dog bites man
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2015, 07:35:18 PM »
Take a look at all the prohibited areas and throw in all the business (around here at least) that slapped gunbusters sign up on their doors.  The only thing you can do is spend a great deal of time taking it off, putting it in the trunk and then putting it back on to ride around in your car.

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Section 65. Prohibited Areas.
(a) A licensee under this Act shall not knowingly carry a firearm on or into:
(1) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private elementary or secondary school.
(2) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a pre-school or child care facility, including any room or portion of a building under the control of a pre-school or child care facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a child care facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home or license under this Act, if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is stored in a locked container when a child under child care at the home is present in the home.
(3) Any building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of government, provided that nothing in this paragraph shall prohibit a licensee from carrying a concealed firearm onto the real property, bikeway, or trail in a park regulated by the Department of Natural Resources or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted as established by the Department of Natural Resources under Section 1.8 of the Wildlife Code.
(4) Any building designated for matters before a circuit court, appellate court, or the Supreme Court, or any building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court.
(5) Any building or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government.
(6) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, or nursing home.
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(8) Any bus, train, or form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public transportation facility paid for in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934.
(10) Any public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from the unit of local government, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access his or her residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) Any building or real property that has been issued a Special Event Retailer's license as defined in Section 1-3.17.1 of the Liquor Control Act during the time designated for the sale of alcohol by the Special Event Retailer's license, or a Special use permit license as defined in subsection (q) of Section 5-1 of the Liquor Control Act during the time designated for the sale of alcohol by the Special use permit license.
(12) Any public playground.
(13) Any public park, athletic area, or athletic facility under the control of a municipality or park district, provided nothing in this Section shall prohibit a licensee from carrying a concealed firearm while on a trail or bikeway if only a portion of the trail or bikeway includes a public park.
(14) Any real property under the control of the Cook County Forest Preserve District.
(15) Any building, classroom, laboratory, medical clinic, hospital, artistic venue, athletic venue, entertainment venue, officially recognized university-related organization property, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university.
(16) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a gaming facility licensed under the Riverboat Gambling Act or the Illinois Horse Racing Act of 1975, including an inter-track wagering location licensee.
(17) Any stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or any collegiate or professional sporting event.
(18) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(19) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport.
(20) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(21) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
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(22) Any street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The licensee shall not under any circumstance store a firearm or ammunition in his or her vehicle or in a compartment or container within a vehicle located anywhere in or on the street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility described in this paragraph.
(23) Any area where firearms are prohibited under federal law.
(a-5) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a public or private community college, college, or university from:
(1) prohibiting persons from carrying a firearm within a vehicle owned, leased, or controlled by the college or university;
(2) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding student, employee, or visitor misconduct and discipline, including suspension and expulsion;
(3) developing resolutions, regulations, or policies regarding the storage or maintenance of firearms, which must include designated areas where persons can park vehicles that carry firearms; and
(4) permitting the carrying or use of firearms for the purpose of instruction and curriculum of officially recognized programs, including but not limited to military science and law enforcement training programs, or in any designated area used for hunting purposes or target shooting.
(a-10) The owner of private real property of any type may prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms on the property under his or her control. The owner must post a sign in accordance with subsection (d) of this Section indicating that firearms are prohibited on the property, unless the property is a private residence.

Yes, all that for $400-$500.  ;/
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