Author Topic: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down  (Read 19276 times)

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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2015, 12:24:27 PM »
IIRC I never really took a strong stance on the episode. I was mostly in wait and see what's next mode during the whole time.

The left has no problem taking troubled individuals and lionizing them into victim heroes. For my part I'm always apprehensive about doing it with "our" guys.

Considering that George hasn't ended up in jail by now I'd say the actual pattern is he isn't breaking the law regularly despite the narrative otherwise.

It would have been great if instead of just barely surviving the continual attention and assault from Mordor he rose up to be a heroic figure. Unfortunately he seems to be just a flawed man who makes bad choices.  

My take as well.

I suppose it's possible he's gotten a pass, or favoritism from the various LEA's he's run into, because despite being a 'tard, he's "Our Tard" at least from the perspective of the law-n-order an self-defense side of things. However, I think the desire to string him up, either as revenge to appease those who do think he's a murderer, or just LEA's and prosecutors afraid they'll be ground zero for the next round of protests could be just as equally strong.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2015, 09:07:55 PM »
George's only screw up, was not leaving the St. Mary/Sanford area long ago.  Man has a HUGE target on his back.

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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #52 on: May 13, 2015, 05:38:26 AM »
George's only screw up, was not leaving the St. Mary/Sanford area long ago.  Man has a HUGE target on his back.

I suppose the laundry list of women calling 911 on him could be considered additional screw ups
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« Reply #53 on: May 13, 2015, 06:11:31 AM »
Cereal bad taste in women if that was a crime I be doing triple life
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2015, 06:26:07 AM »
Cereal bad taste in women if that was a crime I be doing triple life

How many of them have called 911 on you to report abuse?
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« Reply #55 on: May 13, 2015, 06:43:36 AM »
How many of them have called 911 on you to report abuse?

How many of the accusers has Zimmerman actually abused?

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« Reply #56 on: May 13, 2015, 06:53:52 AM »
How many of the accusers has Zimmerman actually abused?

Hard to say - there's definitely something he's doing, though. 

Would you hire somebody with a record of police interventions that long?  "Sorry boss, I'm off again - my mrs called the police.   No, not again - this is a new one."
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #57 on: May 13, 2015, 07:37:18 AM »
Ah yes, the old "Where there's smoke, there's fire" prosecution.  Fine legal framework, that is.

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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #58 on: May 13, 2015, 07:57:35 AM »
Ah yes, the old "Where there's smoke, there's fire" prosecution.  Fine legal framework, that is.

Where's the prosecution?  I'm appealing to common sense.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #59 on: May 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM »
Where's the prosecution?  I'm appealing to common sense.

There is no appeal from the judgement of the court of public opinion.

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« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2015, 09:41:54 AM »
So I guess similarly Trayvon's history damned him
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2015, 11:01:09 AM »
Cereal bad taste in women if that was a crime I be doing triple life

More like serial taste for women who have bad taste in men.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2015, 11:18:20 AM »
In those circumstances it looks like he forgot the watch part of Neighborhood Watch.  IMHO he stepped on himself when he confronted Martin instead of continuing to watch and wait for the police.
This is the main problem with the whole discussion on the Martin/Zimmerman thing.  There are just too many people who have a picture in their mind of what happened based on a bunch of bad information that came out early on.  I pick on you simply because the first actual confrontation was when Martin attacked Zimmerman.  There was no confrontation before then.  I think I have been guilty of it myself.  I think I benefited by not paying attention to this case until about 3 or 4 days after it happened and I bypassed some of the bad information early on.

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/
Massad Ayoob included a series of articles from his blog in his latest book and laid out the event and evidence and prosecution pretty well. 
http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2013/07/13/the-zimmerman-verdict-part-1/
This is the first one.  His book had 14 or 15 sections about different parts of the trial and aspects of it. 
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2015, 01:05:25 PM »
If Zimmerman had remained in his car would Martin be alive today?
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2015, 01:24:49 PM »
If Zimmerman had remained in his car would Martin be alive today?

Hard to say.  Martin attacked a man alone on foot for being followed.  What's to say he wouldn't have attacked a man in a parked car for following him?  After all the kid had a history of complaints about violent behavior.

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« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2015, 04:08:09 PM »
Hard to say - there's definitely something he's doing, though. 

Would you hire somebody with a record of police interventions that long?  "Sorry boss, I'm off again - my mrs called the police.   No, not again - this is a new one."
Oh, fer cryin' out load.  Forgive Zimmerman for being innocent and get on with your life already.

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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2015, 10:26:25 PM »
If Zimmerman had remained in his car would Martin be alive today?
Dead or in prison is my guess. 
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2015, 10:53:27 PM »
Dead or in prison is my guess. 

Who?  Martin had less of an assault/confrontation record than Zimmerman, who nearly got dead a few days ago.

Zimmerman worship is the gun owning, right wing version of the rev Al and his coalition.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #68 on: May 13, 2015, 11:11:47 PM »

Zimmerman worship is the gun owning, right wing version of the rev Al and his coalition.

You're obviously not from around here.  

I've never actually seen "Zimmerman Worship".  Care to cite an instance?  

And I'm of the opinion Martin got exactly what he deserved,  even if it was by the hands of a complete idiot.  But I suppose that's Zimmerman worship in your book.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #69 on: May 13, 2015, 11:32:17 PM »
Martin got exactly what he deserved,  even if it was by the hands of a complete idiot

Proof that there is a God?

Really, not much worship around here.  I recall plenty of folk criticizing his tactics and whatnot...though his actions seemed much more reasonable after the prosecution brought out the 911 dispatcher and all those witnesses that backed up Zimmerman's story.

What many missed and the media did its best to not cover was that from The Water Buffalo's testimony, it sounded like Martin thought Zimmerman was homosexual.  "Creepy ass Cracker" and all that.  And that if that were so, Martin was committing a "hate crime" by jumping Zimmerman.

Speculation?  Unfounded?  Sauce for the goose/gander, says I.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #70 on: May 14, 2015, 07:53:23 AM »
You're obviously not from around here.  

I've never actually seen "Zimmerman Worship".  Care to cite an instance?  

And I'm of the opinion Martin got exactly what he deserved,  even if it was by the hands of a complete idiot.  But I suppose that's Zimmerman worship in your book.
I don't get the 'martin worship' by the left and minorities- its like they are all dumb enough to take their marching orders from al sharpton.
Martin was a turd. Michael Brown was a turd. The world is a better place with these two snuffed out. Find a better role model to latch on to.
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2015, 08:19:25 AM »
I don't get the 'martin worship' by the left and minorities- its like they are all dumb enough to take their marching orders from al sharpton.
Martin was a turd. Michael Brown was a turd. The world is a better place with these two snuffed out. Find a better role model to latch on to.

Whatever man! So they attempted to murder someone. We don't give people the death sentence for attempted murder!!11!!eleventy1!
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #72 on: May 14, 2015, 09:18:27 AM »
1- Rejecting the media narrative and allowing he was innocent until proven guilty.

2- Accepting the finding of the judge and jury who heard the case.

So those of us who are guilty of both one and two above are actually Zimmerman worshipers?
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #73 on: May 14, 2015, 02:34:31 PM »
Whatever man! So they attempted to murder someone. We don't give people the death sentence for attempted murder!!11!!eleventy1!
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Re: Some folks can not take a hint to just calm down
« Reply #74 on: May 14, 2015, 02:40:06 PM »
Who?  Martin had less of an assault/confrontation record than Zimmerman, who nearly got dead a few days ago.

Zimmerman worship is the gun owning, right wing version of the rev Al and his coalition.
Martin was into violence, drugs, and theft.  He hadn't gotten to the level of Michael Brown yet (that we know of).  Zimmerman is obviously a screwup, but not much more than that, and he is much older giving us a longer track record. 
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