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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 04:07:23 PM »
How do you say "holy *expletive deleted*it" in Chinese?
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 04:21:54 PM »
Given their piss-poor attitude towards safety I'm surprised big things like this don't happen more often.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 04:29:10 PM »
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 04:35:04 PM »
Hory Clap!

Watch the video here http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/massive-explosion-reported-in-chinese-city-of-tianjin

More of the same + someone's cell phone video of getting shook up http://www.news3lv.com/content/news/story/Massive-explosion-injures-at-least-300-in-Tianjin/sHeTczxYzUGeVBrYcTdBTg.cspx

This says local gas station explosion plus 2 oil/ethanol tanks (NSFW comments) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/3gr1bh/huge_explosion_reported_in_chinese_port_city_of/

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They said no one is alive within 1 km of the explosion, the explosions happened in tanggu district which is close to residential area in developing.
The total population of Binhai is 2.5 millions and the population density in the area is expected 2000/kmsq, expected injuries/casualties will be around 7000~70000.
There were two explosions, the first one is equals to 3 tons of TNT and the second one is 21 tons.
Estimated by the Seismograph (ML 2.3/ ML 2.9)

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2015, 08:31:42 PM »
How do you say "holy *expletive deleted*it" in Chinese?

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2015, 08:40:18 PM »
Darn it China, do you have to treat US history like a check list?

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 12:09:13 AM »
Official reports are 17 dead 400 wounded. I doubt it's that low.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 12:24:22 AM »
We'll never get the true numbers out of the Chinese, but it will be hard to minimize the overall severity.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 06:01:33 AM »
We'll never get the true numbers out of the Chinese, but it will be hard to minimize the overall severity.

Yeah, as opposed to here in the U.S., where a free press is always watching over the government to report every peccadillo.



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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 09:52:39 AM »
Just think: if China had decent zoning laws that kept residential areas separated from places likely to go ka-blooey! by a business district, the loss of life and injury could have been mitigated.

The flaw in that ointment is most likely that the Chinese are too smart to buy the cheap crap their factories produce, thus limiting the size of any business district to a few blocks.

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 10:46:32 AM »
Just think: if China had decent zoning laws that kept residential areas separated from places likely to go ka-blooey! by a business district, the loss of life and injury could have been mitigated.

The flaw in that ointment is most likely that the Chinese are too smart to buy the cheap crap their factories produce, thus limiting the size of any business district to a few blocks.

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 10:57:24 AM »
Yeah, cause zoning has had such a positive effect here in the US.  We need to export it to level the market. 

That's either amazingly poor or amazingly good phrasing.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 11:02:52 AM »
. . . The flaw in that ointment is most likely that the Chinese are too smart to buy the cheap crap their factories produce . . .
So . . . where DO they buy their toasters from?
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 12:41:11 PM »
Yeah, cause zoning has had such a positive effect here in the US.  We need to export it to level the market. 

For the majority of the population zoning laws, as stupidly implemented as they often are, serve a legitimate function.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2015, 01:24:13 PM »
CCTV footage of the blast. I believe this is the initial (smaller) blast. This is looking to be Pepcon or West Fertilizer size if not worse.

https://youtu.be/KBPPmTe2a-w

Drone footage of the aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUDL9NE-y1A&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2015, 01:30:36 PM »
The pictures are unreal, especially the shipping containers flung around like toys.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33844086
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2015, 01:33:34 PM »
CCTV footage of the blast. I believe this is the initial (smaller) blast. This is looking to be Pepcon or West Fertilizer size if not worse.

https://youtu.be/KBPPmTe2a-w

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2015, 01:47:01 PM »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a3_1439409813

(warning, a lot of profanity in English... expat American stoners... or what?)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e5_1439474009

Dozens of walking wounded, several third degree burns. I think a bunch of those people might succumb to shock, infection etc. even if all of them got American level burn-ward care.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=083_1439475911
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2015, 02:51:06 PM »
CCTV footage of the blast. I believe this is the initial (smaller) blast. This is looking to be Pepcon or West Fertilizer size if not worse.

>>>>>   https://youtu.be/KBPPmTe2a-w  <<<<<

Drone footage of the aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUDL9NE-y1A&feature=youtu.be


Many of the injuries from blasts like this are a result of watching the fire through a window.

These effects have been shown throughout many of the large explosions over time.

Example: The Halifax blast in Canada:

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Many of the wounds inflicted by the blast were permanently debilitating, such as those caused by flying glass or by the flash of the explosion. Thousands of people had stopped to watch the ship burning in the harbour, many from inside buildings, leaving them directly in the path of glass fragments from shattered windows. Roughly 5900 eye injuries were reported, and 41 people lost their sight permanently.[107]

Hatcher notes (p.521) that in the Lake Denmark powder factory explosion, "...the commanding officer of Picatinny Arsenal heard the fire alarm at Lake Denmark and ordered a phone call made to see if help might be needed.  The operator reported that he couldn't get through, and Col. Ramsey ordered him to keep trying, meanwhile watching the column of smoke on the hill about 5/8 of a mile distant.  Suddenly he saw an enormous flash and with excellent judgment, he threw himself flat.  A few seconds later, when the blast hit, portions of the glass from the windows through which he had been looking were blown across the room and embedded deeply in an oak door."

So if you see a flash, duck.  If you're watching a fire like that, move away from the glass.

Teach your kids that, too.

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Hatcher's Notebook, "Explosions and powder fires"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor#Injuries_and_damage

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However most of the injured were hurt by the secondary blast effects, that is the shattered, falling or blown-in glass.[23][80] The intense light from the meteor, momentarily 30 times brighter than the Sun,[46] also produced injuries, leading to over 180 cases of eye pain, and 70 people subsequently reported temporary flash blindness.[81] Twenty people reported ultraviolet burns similar to sunburn, possibly intensified by the presence of snow on the ground.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2015, 04:29:45 PM »
Which is why everyone who made fun of the old 1050's "duck and cover" was wrong. Yes, there's a radius within the blast that it "doesn't do any good" but there's a much larger circumference where it does, and walking around in the aftermath of WWIII with flash-burns, blindness, or cuts from flying glass that was otherwise easily preventable certainly wouldn't make things better for you.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2015, 05:07:46 PM »
Which is why everyone who made fun of the old 1050's "duck and cover" was wrong. Yes, there's a radius within the blast that it "doesn't do any good" but there's a much larger circumference where it does, and walking around in the aftermath of WWIII with flash-burns, blindness, or cuts from flying glass that was otherwise easily preventable certainly wouldn't make things better for you.

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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2015, 05:17:56 PM »
Duck and Cover does sound like something the English would call food.
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Re: Huge explosion in Chinese port
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I was always pleasant, friendly and within arm's reach of a gun.

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If government is the answer, it must have been a really, really, really stupid question.