Libertarian candidate sacrifices goat and drinks its blood

[lupinus]

Do you know anyone whose belief structure doesn't require any extrabiblical revelation, interpretation, or dogma?

yes


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[cordex]

yes

Amazing.

[Battle Monkey of Zardoz]

yes


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Are bonfires and nekkid dancing involved?

[Perd Hapley]

Do you know anyone whose belief structure doesn't require any extrabiblical revelation, interpretation, or dogma?

He did specify revelation, not the other two. Just sayin...

[cordex]

He did specify revelation, not the other two. Just sayin...

Good point, but absent revelation any attempts at interpretation or defining dogma are at best shots in the dark.

[Perd Hapley]

Good point, but absent revelation any attempts at interpretation or defining dogma are at best shots in the dark.

You mean, absent any other revelation than that found in the Bible? How do you mean?

[lupinus]

Are bonfires and nekkid dancing involved?

Both are nifty, but not as part of the religious observance.


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[lupinus]

Amazing.

How so? Some of us take the Bible at its word without feeling the need to add to it or come up with funny ways of explaining things we dont fully understand or perhaps even like all that much.


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[cordex]

You mean, absent any other revelation than that found in the Bible? How do you mean?

If someone really thinks they rely solely on the Bible to interpret and extract meaning from scripture then they are almost certainly ignorant of their own presumptions.

How so? Some of us take the Bible at its word without feeling the need to add to it or come up with funny ways of explaining things we dont fully understand or perhaps even like all that much.

Good for you.  I'm sure no one else claims that exact same thing while teaching different doctrine.

[lupinus]

Well someone's a little touchy now aren't they.


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[K Frame]

Wow...

When goat sacrifice and blood drinking is outlawed, only outlaws will be sacrificing goats and drinking their blood.

[roo_ster]

Do you know anyone whose belief structure doesn't require any extrabiblical revelation, interpretation, or dogma?

My observation centered on the Bible and the revelation it imparts being sufficient or insufficient and the need or seeking out of more revelation.  That would be revelation in the epistomology sense. 

In that vein i would answer "yes" to your question, assuming that your question a bit ill formed relative to my original observation.

[cordex]

Well someone's a little touchy now aren't they.

Not touchy. Just pointing out that well-informed, intelligent people will look at the same scriptures and come away with quite different interpretations while claiming to adhere to the singular revelation of the Bible.  So, either way, folks are using divine revelation or some other extrabiblical assumptions to come to their conclusions - right or wrong.

[Perd Hapley]

Not touchy. Just pointing out that well-informed, intelligent people will look at the same scriptures and come away with quite different interpretations while claiming to adhere to the singular revelation of the Bible.  So, either way, folks are using divine revelation or some other extrabiblical assumptions to come to their conclusions - right or wrong.

I think you have some odd assumptions about what is meant by "sola scriptura." It doesn't mean that God gives us absolutely no other source of information. Nor does it exclude multiple interpretations of the same text.

[RoadKingLarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrAzVcILVzE

[Scout26]

SO libertarian.  I take it he's for small .gov, reduced taxes and the like.

I would vote for him.  However, the L's seem to be just as rock solid stupid as the R's in putting guys like this up for office.    You really can't run for office and let your freak flag fly, if you want to win the votes of the average American. 

[Regolith]

SO libertarian.  I take it he's for small .gov, reduced taxes and the like.

I would vote for him.  However, the L's seem to be just as rock solid stupid as the R's in putting guys like this up for office.    You really can't run for office and let your freak flag fly, if you want to win the votes of the average American. 

He's not a libertarian, just running as one. His actual politics are pretty close to being no-*expletive deleted*it fascist (though he claims he wants everything -- the eugenics and such -- to be "voluntary"  ). In Florida apparently the parties can't control who actually runs under their banner; so long as they meet the minimum requirements to be included on the ballot, they can run as whatever they want. The chair of the Libertarian Party of Florida, Adrian Wyllie, resigned in protest of his campaign.

[roo_ster]

He's not a libertarian, just running as one. His actual politics are pretty close to being no-*expletive deleted*it fascist (though he claims he wants everything -- the eugenics and such -- to be "voluntary"  ). In Florida apparently the parties can't control who actually runs under their banner; so long as they meet the minimum requirements to be included on the ballot, they can run as whatever they want. The chair of the Libertarian Party of Florida, Adrian Wyllie, resigned in protest of his campaign.

Ah the old "no _true_ goat killing blood drinking libertarian" logical fallacy.  I am sure that logical fallacy has its own wikipedia page.

[Regolith]

Ah the old "no _true_ goat killing blood drinking libertarian" logical fallacy.  I am sure that logical fallacy has its own wikipedia page.

I'll remember that next time you call someone a RINO.

[roo_ster]

I'll remember that next time you call someone a RINO.

It was a joke.

[Regolith]

It was a joke.

Ah, sorry; I've heard that one too often non-jokingly, it's sometimes hard to tell...

[roo_ster]

Ah, sorry; I've heard that one too often non-jokingly, it's sometimes hard to tell...

No big whoop.  I posted the article not to bash libertarians but as a wtheck and/or wierd bit of americana.  I do like a bit of wierdnesss in my america.

And while i appreciate the no true scotsman sorta-fallacy i sought to have a little fun with it by running with the "no true whacked out absurdity."  I did manage to miss the fascist bit though.  Maybe that would have put it over the top into no-doubt parody.  Poes law is a female dog.

[KD5NRH]

I stuck through the most heavily charismatic service (all 2+ hours) I ever attended because of the promise of good eats afterwards.  Well worth it, both for the chow and for the in-service entertainment (all the sort of things you described and more!).  I also felt obliged to stick around after dark due to the skeevy neighborhood and cluelessness of my fellow visiting congregants.

An ex GF and I once gave up on an interfaith Baptist/Pentecostal/Methodist service in spite of promised food afterward.  The sermons were actually pretty good, but the "praise bands" would be kicked out of their own garages for lack of talent if they weren't claiming a religious exemption from the laws of taste.

[Perd Hapley]

...the "praise bands" would be kicked out of their own garages for lack of talent if they weren't claiming a religious exemption from the laws of taste.

   The curse of much of our religious music, these days. I prefer the music from back when the Christians had the best talent. Like, 300 years ago.

[roo_ster]

   The curse of much of our religious music, these days. I prefer the music from back when the Christians had the best talent. Like, 300 years ago.

It is all downhill after Bach.