No one wants to take your guns

[JN01]

...until they do: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/16/hillary-clinton-australia-gun-ban-worth-looking-u-s/

The Dems seem to be going all out for gun control this election, with Hillary leading.

[Perd Hapley]

Common Sense Confiscation

[Hutch]

If you I like your gun, you can keep your gun.  Period.

[Battle Monkey of Zardoz]

They keep saying that. I don't think it means what they think it means.

[Ben]

They keep saying that. I don't think it means what they think it means.

I don't know what you guys are getting upset about. I mean they're buying your guns back. They're giving you money. What's a little less freedom if you can get $75 from the government for a Sig 226? $75 will buy a lot of blue pills.

[RoadKingLarry]

I guess we'll now get to find out if enough Americans have been lobotomized to elect a self avowed gun grabber to office.

Personally I kind of think we may be seriously screwed this time around. California has effectively enfranchised illegal aliens, I imagine there will be more states doing the same thing before next November.
The odds of a republican, let alone a conservative, getting elected POTUS are getting longer every day.

[Devonai]

$75 will buy a lot of blue pills.

Around here that will buy you 150mg worth of blue pills.

[Ben]

Around here that will buy you 150mg worth of blue pills.

[230RN]

Drive-by video:

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2012/12/sen-feinstein-on-guns-mr-and-mrs-america-turn-them-all-in-2447284.html

[erictank]

I don't know what you guys are getting upset about. I mean they're buying your guns back. They're giving you money. What's a little less freedom if you can get $75 from the government for a Sig 226? $75 will buy a lot of blue pills.

One and a quarter, based on what I saw not too long ago...

[Battle Monkey of Zardoz]

Am I the only one that is so tired of this crap, that I want them to try to ban, buyback and or confiscate. Really, I'd like to see them attempt it. Yes, I'm at that point. I don't care.

[MechAg94]

...until they do: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/16/hillary-clinton-australia-gun-ban-worth-looking-u-s/

The Dems seem to be going all out for gun control this election, with Hillary leading.

Hillary always campaign wherever the political winds take her.  Sanders is beating her up with lefty Democrats by running as a socialist so she is moving to the left to try to recover.  The whole thing has the Democrat candidates moving further left.   

I think Hillary is just saying and doing whatever it takes to get her into the White House.  If she thought advocating putting Jews in concentration camps would do it, she would be talking it up. 

[AJ Dual]

Am I the only one that is so tired of this crap, that I want them to try to ban, buyback and or confiscate. Really, I'd like to see them attempt it. Yes, I'm at that point. I don't care.

Actually, I'm not. All the recent talk of gun bans, control, buy-backs "Australia's system" or whatever, it's a PERFECT barometer for the ginormous enthusiasm gap the Democrats/Left are suffering right now. So bad, that the likes of Hillary have to bring it up to try and placate their base. The first unlikeable shrill and disingenuous female POTUS is not performing the same juggernaut as the empty-suit first (half)black POTUS did.

It's actually a sign of extreme political vulnerability if anything.

Gun control and gun bans are still plutonium, and the third-rail of politics in America. And even where it's made gains, like NY or CT, apparently compliance with registration is running somewhere significantly less than 20%... Every one of those millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens of those states becomes a potential Lexington, a Concord, a Randy Weaver. Or more likely, a court case, that's going to get their state spanked in Federal Court.

[Scout26]

Hillary always campaign wherever the political winds take her.  Sanders is beating her up with lefty Democrats by running as a socialist so she is moving to the left to try to recover.  The whole thing has the Democrat candidates moving further left.   

I think Hillary is just saying and doing whatever it takes to get her into the White House.  If she thought advocating putting Jews in concentration camps would do it, she would be talking it up. 

Yep, this.  Hillary will say or do anything to win.    She got blinded sided once before in 2008 by Obama, and she's not taking any chances this time.   I think her campaign has been completely caught off guard by how well Bernie is doing.   I think they expected him to hover around 5% in the polls, not to be even with or ahead of her in many of them.

If she thought it would help her win, she'd perform a partial birth abortion, live on TV.  Followed by beheading Christians with a rusty spork.   As far as she's concerned, it her goddammed turn and nothing and no one is going to get in her way like last time...

Plus the fact that Bernie is doing so well is a clear indication of the complete lack of enthusiasm for Hillary.   Again, I stand by my prediction that Hillary will implode, Elizabeth Warren will jump in to "save the party", Bernie will drop out to become Warren's VP candidate.  Obama will back Warren loudly and use his OFA/scampaign to help elect Warren.  But she's far to liberal/socialist for the rest of the country and will go down in flames. 

[Battle Monkey of Zardoz]

Yep, this.  Hillary will say or do anything to win.    She got blinded sided once before in 2008 by Obama, and she's not taking any chances this time.   I think her campaign has been completely caught off guard by how well Bernie is doing.   I think they expected him to hover around 5% in the polls, not to be even with or ahead of her in many of them.

If she thought it would help her win, she'd perform a partial birth abortion, live on TV.  Followed by beheading Christians with a rusty spork.   As far as she's concerned, it her goddammed turn and nothing and no one is going to get in her way like last time...

Plus the fact that Bernie is doing so well is a clear indication of the complete lack of enthusiasm for Hillary.   Again, I stand by my prediction that Hillary will implode, Elizabeth Warren will jump in to "save the party", Bernie will drop out to become Warren's VP candidate.  Obama will back Warren loudly and use his OFA/scampaign to help elect Warren.  But she's far to liberal/socialist for the rest of the country and will go down in flames. 

I hope you are right. Don't forget, there are more than enough alive stupid people who will vote for Hillary. The democrats have learned to control their minions to toe the party line and vote for whoever. Nothing else matters, issues be damned, just vote for the democrat. The democrats learned their lesson with the Kennedy / Carter fiasco.

[JN01]

Actually, I'm not. All the recent talk of gun bans, control, buy-backs "Australia's system" or whatever, it's a PERFECT barometer for the ginormous enthusiasm gap the Democrats/Left are suffering right now. So bad, that the likes of Hillary have to bring it up to try and placate their base. The first unlikeable shrill and disingenuous female POTUS is not performing the same juggernaut as the empty-suit first (half)black POTUS did.

It's actually a sign of extreme political vulnerability if anything.

Gun control and gun bans are still plutonium, and the third-rail of politics in America. And even where it's made gains, like NY or CT, apparently compliance with registration is running somewhere significantly less than 20%... Every one of those millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens of those states becomes a potential Lexington, a Concord, a Randy Weaver. Or more likely, a court case, that's going to get their state spanked in Federal Court.

I'm with you, it isn't 1992 and gun control extremism is no longer an issue that will win many votes.  Public opinion has swayed much more in favor of gun/self-defense rights over the past couple decades, even among many liberals.  Are these candidates being brainwashed by their own propaganda?

[MechAg94]

It is always darkest before the dawn?  

I think you are right that public opinion nationally is not heavily in favor of more gun control.  I think that is why the gun control activists are almost louder now and much more "honest" about their goals.  It is popular with the the liberal left who supply the money, but is less popular with anyone else.

That said, we have gotten this far with a lot of effort and we still need to keep it going.

[Ron]

It's almost like they want to provoke a violent response from gun owners.

[Regolith]

Again, I stand by my prediction that Hillary will implode, Elizabeth Warren will jump in to "save the party", Bernie will drop out to become Warren's VP candidate.  Obama will back Warren loudly and use his OFA/scampaign to help elect Warren.  But she's far to liberal/socialist for the rest of the country and will go down in flames. 

I don't see that happening. Sanders stole Warren's left-populist thunder, and she doesn't have much else that Hillary doesn't.

I can see pretty much that exact scenario going down with Biden instead, though, particularly now that he's playing the "will I or won't I" game.

[MechAg94]

One opinion I heard today was that Obama's FBI is still investigating Hillary's email scandal.  I gotta wonder if Obama wouldn't be just happy to keep stoking all that stuff until her campaign fizzles out. 

Even if that is a side show, it is still a reminder of the negative side of Hillary and she doesn't have the charisma to overcome that stuff. 

[Angel Eyes]

It's almost like they want to provoke a violent response from gun owners.

It would be the excuse they need want.

[AJ Dual]

One opinion I heard today was that Obama's FBI is still investigating Hillary's email scandal.  I gotta wonder if Obama wouldn't be just happy to keep stoking all that stuff until her campaign fizzles out. 

Even if that is a side show, it is still a reminder of the negative side of Hillary and she doesn't have the charisma to overcome that stuff. 

I think Biden getting in is an indicator of how far/deep the email probe is going to go... I don't think it's going to reach "jail level" but I do think that it indicates it could be a "tank her candidacy" level is going to be reached. 

I think that there's people in the Democratic Party looking of the polling numbers of "Any GOP candidate vs. Hillary", that she looses, and she's only a liability, even worse, that she's got a huge potential to be the "Democrat Nixon" Albatross that'll hang around their neck for a generation or two.

[Hawkmoon]

I don't see that happening. Sanders stole Warren's left-populist thunder, and she doesn't have much else that Hillary doesn't.

Warren would have to deal with being called out as a liar, too.

"Oh, my resume and my university profile have said for twenty years that I'm a Native American? Who knew?"

[brimic]

It would be the excuse they need want.

Yep. People on this side are remarkably patient- if liberals really thought deeply of this, they should be terrified of this fact.

[AJ Dual]

Yep. People on this side are remarkably patient- if liberals really thought deeply of this, they should be terrified of this fact.

Just to say in response to my post above... Completely wrong about Biden... bummer.  I suppose a Pollyanna'ish outlook could say that internal polling and enthusiasm gap tells them it's so bad for the Democrats, he's staying out, but I know better.

And yes, brimic is right. If anti-gun people are actually WORRIED about gun violence, the best answer is to step back and leave RKBA alone.

Firstly, we won't push as hard, and RKBA might actually stop expanding and settle in where it is now.

Secondly, if they're afraid of "gun violence", getting us to a place where we have nothing to loose, gun owners who are not gangbangers, and not loner nutjobs looking for body count to get their day in the media spotlight to make up for a failed life will be offering "gun violence" in quantities they cannot handle.

It will be accurate, directed, and planned gun violence. Delivered by hunters, veterans, and people who belong to gun clubs and who play gun sports designed to deliver rapid accurate fire as efficiently as possible. And it will be aimed at the people we deem responsible, not random people in malls, schools, or movie theaters, or the police.