Woman dies after being arrested for refusing to leave the hospital

[MillCreek]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/naacp-woman-dies-forcibly-removed-hospital-35916557

I wonder if the autopsy will show that the woman had a pulmonary embolism.  There will be lots of Monday morning quarterbacking at the hospital, as the lawsuits inevitably ensue.

[MillCreek]

http://www.startribune.com/the-latest-woman-died-from-blood-clot-in-lung-autopsy-says/363384371/

I was right, she did die of a pulmonary embolism.  What kind of workup she got in the ER will be key to the case.

[RoadKingLarry]

Obviously this is all the fault of the NRA.

[TommyGunn]

Obviously this is all the fault of the NRA.

No no no no---------It's George W. Bush's fault!!!

[AmbulanceDriver]

The amount of, "oh, CRAP!" being said by anyone involved in her care right now has to be epic.....

[AJ Dual]

Obviously this is all the fault of the NRA.

Legal responsibility may lie with the hospital depending on how the procedures and protocols were followed. I'm guessing it's the fault of drug seekers and Title XIX recipients who are bored and decide that an ambulance ride and trip to the ER would break up the monotony of daytime television in Section 8 housing.

[AmbulanceDriver]

Legal responsibility may lie with the hospital depending on how the procedures and protocols were followed. I'm guessing it's the fault of drug seekers and Title XIX recipients who are bored and decide that an ambulance ride and trip to the ER would break up the monotony of daytime television in Section 8 housing.

Careful....  You're speaking entirely too much truth there.....

[Scout26]

Back when we first got back from Germany the ex- worked as NICU nurse at University of Chicago Hospital.  And she carried Med-Mal insurance.   Given that the population she dealt with was a lot of pre-mature babies born to drug- addled mothers, one of the easiest ways to call Bingo in Life's Lottery was to claim that the reason little Tyrese was gorked-all-to-hell was because the nurse taking care of him failed to dot a "t" on his chart.

It was costing us about $2k-$3k a year.   Right up until my sister (the lawyer) told us to drop it.  As she put it, "I don't care if you were off that week, if you have insurance, I'm suing you, because your insurance will want to settle without going to court.  If you don't have insurance, you're not worth my time.  I make it a policy to never, ever, ever sue poor people.  What am I going to get from you?  A couple thousand tops and 25+ years left on a 30 year mortgage.  Not worth my time or trouble."

[MillCreek]

^^^^This is exactly what the risk manager tells his nursing staff.  Not to mention that I am legally liable for their actions under respondeat superior and vicarious liability, and I have millions of dollars of insurance.  The individual nursing policies are excess coverage, and do not pay if the insurance of the nurses employer is paying.  There may be some other coverages under the nursing policy that make it worthwhile, but if you buy it for malpractice protection, and you only do nursing work as an employee, you are pretty much wasting your money.  You are covered under the employers policy.

[brimic]

Back when we first got back from Germany the ex- worked as NICU nurse at University of Chicago Hospital.  And she carried Med-Mal insurance.   Given that the population she dealt with was a lot of pre-mature babies born to drug- addled mothers, one of the easiest ways to call Bingo in Life's Lottery was to claim that the reason little Tyrese was gorked-all-to-hell was because the nurse taking care of him failed to dot a "t" on his chart.

It was costing us about $2k-$3k a year.   Right up until my sister (the lawyer) told us to drop it.  As she put it, "I don't care if you were off that week, if you have insurance, I'm suing you, because your insurance will want to settle without going to court.  If you don't have insurance, you're not worth my time.  I make it a policy to never, ever, ever sue poor people.  What am I going to get from you?  A couple thousand tops and 25+ years left on a 30 year mortgage.  Not worth my time or trouble."

Yeah.
The uninsured mexican who hit my ex's truck a few months back has me contemplating the whole insurance thing.... the worst he got oit of it was a small fine for not carrying insurance. A lawyer told the ex that the mehican isn't worth the time or cost to sue.

[HankB]

The amount of, "oh, CRAP!" being said by anyone involved in her care right now has to be epic.....

I bet they're spending long hours in meetings plotting how to cover their collective a$$e$ . . .

[MillCreek]

Yeah.
The uninsured mexican who hit my ex's truck a few months back has me contemplating the whole insurance thing.... the worst he got oit of it was a small fine for not carrying insurance. A lawyer told the ex that the mehican isn't worth the time or cost to sue.

Uninsured people hit my fleet vehicles all the time.  If they have no assets to seize or wages to attach, they are judgment proof and not worth my time to sue.

[dogmush]

Yeah.
The uninsured mexican who hit my ex's truck a few months back has me contemplating the whole insurance thing.... the worst he got oit of it was a small fine for not carrying insurance. A lawyer told the ex that the mehican isn't worth the time or cost to sue.

The problem is that  I have assets that I worked for,  and like. So I need the insurance.  Plus extra to cover my loss from the uninsured, judgment proof failure at life.

I guess I could enjoy knowing it'll catch up to him when he can't retire comfortably, but I'll probably be picking up that tab as well.

[Boomhauer]

Being a productive, law abiding member of society *expletive deleted*ing BLOWS...especially when it comes to my money disappearing for all the *expletive deleted*it I have to pay for but the leeches don't pay a *expletive deleted*ing dime.

[lupinus]

Being a productive, law abiding member of society *expletive deleted*ing BLOWS...especially when it comes to my money disappearing for all the *expletive deleted*it I have to pay for but the leeches don't pay a *expletive deleted*ing dime.

Preach it brotha Boom


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[RevDisk]

Friend of mine saved her son's life by throwing a complete public fit. She got blown off by two or three doctors with essentially "he's fine, leave now." Threw a fit on the third or fourth round, got a competent doctor that immediately rushed the kid to the ER and saved his life. Something about the kid's digestive tract being obstructed, I don't recall the details.

I have few doubts if that doctor had decided to call the cops rather than take a few minutes to actually examine the kid, the kid would be dead. Sure, she could have sued afterwards, but a pile of cash isn't worth more than your kid's life. Hospital essentially paid for the operation in exchange for her not suing.

The problem is that  I have assets that I worked for,  and like. So I need the insurance.  Plus extra to cover my loss from the uninsured, judgment proof failure at life.

I guess I could enjoy knowing it'll catch up to him when he can't retire comfortably, but I'll probably be picking up that tab as well.

There's the rub. If you want to have a nice life, you're no longer judgment proof. There's ways around it, keeping your money under the mattress and leasing everything, but it's a lot of work.

[HankB]

Being a productive, law abiding member of society *expletive deleted*ing BLOWS...especially when it comes to my money disappearing for all the *expletive deleted*it I have to pay for but the leeches don't pay a *expletive deleted*ing dime.

^^^^^^
What he said.