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Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« on: February 12, 2016, 08:19:33 AM »
http://fox6now.com/2016/02/09/violence-or-vigilantism-teen-beaten-stripped-of-his-clothing-after-allegedly-attempting-a-carjacking/



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Police say this all began one block away, shortly before 2:00 p.m. when two people tried stealing a vehicle.

The vehicle's owner caught them -- and one suspect took off in a getaway car, while the other ran down the street.

"They started tugging on his jacket, shoes and pants," the witness said.

The 15-year-old boy was stopped by a group of men.

"As he was laying there practically naked, they still kept beating him and laughing at him," the witness said.

The group of men left the teen disoriented, laying in the snow.

A little background....
Its been the policy of the Milwaukee Mayor(1) and Police chief(2) for the last year to not allow the police to pursue suspects in vehicles. The net outcome as been car thefts/carjackings have gone through the roof, and gang members have resorted to running 'rolling drug houses' knowing that it was safe for them to commit their crimes from vehicles. Another effect is that there have been a lot of fatal traffic accidents in the last year involving stolen cars 'drive it like you stole it' is an expression that rings true.
The neighborhood that this happened in is mexican/hispanic- hispanics live concentrated in the south side, blacks live concentrated in the north, and they don't mix well at all. From the context of the story, the kid had a hispanic mom, but he looked black.... which didn't help him much in avoiding a well deserved beatdown.

I'm in the camp of people who think the kid got what he deserved, if he didn't deserve more.


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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 11:10:31 AM »
Instapundit referenced the Watchmen on the topic of gov't not doing its peace keeping job & vigilantism:

"None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me."
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Similarly with crooks.  Take a gander at all the youtube videos of crooks getting pasted in countries without solid gov't LEOs.  Merciless.

Them crooks are locked up with US.  The only reason they don't get a community beat down is:
1. Belief that gov't will manage it.
2. Gov't going after victims-turned-vigilantes.

I have little sympathy for the crook in the OP.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 11:57:01 AM »
Agreed.  Little to no sympathy.  He brought it on himself. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 12:36:14 PM »
Not seeing a problem with any of this.....
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 01:31:57 PM »
The neighborhood that this happened in is mexican/hispanic- hispanics live concentrated in the south side, blacks live concentrated in the north, and they don't mix well at all.

Here's some GIS'ed 2010 Census Data for Milwaukee, white gaps are industrial spaces, large roadways, or public parks where nobody lives.

For those not native to WI or the MKE metro, you can see just how clear the lines are drawn in the city...

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 02:38:51 PM »
Here's some GIS'ed 2010 Census Data for Milwaukee, white gaps are industrial spaces, large roadways, or public parks where nobody lives.

For those not native to WI or the MKE metro, you can see just how clear the lines are drawn in the city...



That is quite a divide.  What site did you get the map from?
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 02:44:56 PM »
That is quite a divide.  What site did you get the map from?
Google race dot map.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 03:16:48 PM »
Hispanic cars matter.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 03:30:00 PM »
From the article:

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Violence or vigilantism?


Uh . . . both?
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 04:36:53 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 05:32:04 PM »
Not seeing a problem with any of this.....

Only problem I see is that the police seem to want to arrest the person/people who who thrashed the hid, instead of giving him/them the medal(s_ he/they deserve(s).

Slight thread drift:

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A photo of the boy laying in the snow was posted on Facebook.

"Lay" is a transitive verb -- it requires a subject and an object. The goblin was not "laying" in the snow, he was "lying" in the snow.
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Re: Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 06:19:10 PM »
http://fox6now.com/2016/02/09/violence-or-vigilantism-teen-beaten-stripped-of-his-clothing-after-allegedly-attempting-a-carjacking/



A little background....
Its been the policy of the Milwaukee Mayor(1) and Police chief(2) for the last year to not allow the police to pursue suspects in vehicles. The net outcome as been car thefts/carjackings have gone through the roof, and gang members have resorted to running 'rolling drug houses' knowing that it was safe for them to commit their crimes from vehicles. Another effect is that there have been a lot of fatal traffic accidents in the last year involving stolen cars 'drive it like you stole it' is an expression that rings true.
The neighborhood that this happened in is mexican/hispanic- hispanics live concentrated in the south side, blacks live concentrated in the north, and they don't mix well at all. From the context of the story, the kid had a hispanic mom, but he looked black.... which didn't help him much in avoiding a well deserved beatdown.

I'm in the camp of people who think the kid got what he deserved, if he didn't deserve more.


(1) Tom Barrett- lifelong oxygen thief, prominent member of MAIG, formerlly known as 'Backbench Barrett' when he served many terms in he US House, but never did anything other than provide a reliable democratic vote.
(2) Ed Flynn- former Baltimore police chief, political hack empty suit.
You got stuck with flynn? You have my sympathy.  He was a waste of air

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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 10:24:26 PM »
Street Justice, part II:

http://nypost.com/2016/02/12/crooks-arm-ripped-off-after-failed-robbery-attempt/

Beating the perp is for wimps.   Be a real man and take a limb.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 11:17:23 PM »
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"I saw the gun on the floor,” Fleur added. “The arm was on the floor near the gun.”

The teen got out from under the car, he said, and ran inside a city bus.

“Everyone is screaming, ‘Come back, come back, your arm. You’re bleeding too much,’” Fleur said.


Tough kid.  :O
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 12:01:53 PM »

Tough kid.  :O

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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016, 12:52:40 PM »
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016, 01:17:41 PM »
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016, 02:05:54 PM »
That is quite a divide.  What site did you get the map from?
See the long white diagonal line in the green portion of the map? Thats fondulac ave, was my daily commute route for several years. Pure ghetto. Most of the murders are within a 1/2 mile of that road. Unfortunately, fo quite a long time, it was the only practical way to get downtown from NW burbs, since milwaukee lacks an adequate freeway system.
The big horizontal divide is I94, south of it can best be described as 'little mexico city.'

There are reasons why its considered the mist segregated metropolitan area in the country.
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Re: Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016, 02:12:09 PM »
You got stuck with flynn? You have my sympathy.  He was a waste of air

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Fortunately I don't have him as my actual police chief, but he's about par for the course as far as police chiefs in milwaukee, not the worst by far, not nearly the best.
One of his first acts as chief in milwaukee was to bang a reporter who was writing an article about him.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016, 02:22:54 PM »
Fortunately I don't have him as my actual police chief, but he's about par for the course as far as police chiefs in milwaukee, not the worst by far, not nearly the best.
One of his first acts as chief in milwaukee was to bang a reporter who was writing an article about him.
Female reporter?

Just checking

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 02:40:47 PM »
Female reporter?

Just checking

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My bad, he came from Mass, not baltimore...
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Re: Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 04:00:36 PM »
Fortunately I don't have him as my actual police chief, but he's about par for the course as far as police chiefs in milwaukee, not the worst by far, not nearly the best.

We need more like Clarke.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2016, 12:27:57 AM »
Street Justice, part II:

http://nypost.com/2016/02/12/crooks-arm-ripped-off-after-failed-robbery-attempt/

Beating the perp is for wimps.   Be a real man and take a limb.


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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2016, 02:28:24 PM »
You beat me to it ...

It does give "one-armed bandit" a whole new meaning.
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Re: Street justice:1 Carjacker:0
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2016, 03:37:06 PM »
It does give "one-armed bandit" a whole new meaning.

New street name for the robber: "Slots".

Air Jordans usually cost an arm and a leg. He got his for only an arm.

"Breaking rocks in the
Hot sun
I lost my arm and now
I have one
I lost my arm and now
I have one.

I needed Jordans cuz
I had none
I fought a car and the
Car won
I fought a car and the
Car won."

"Your honor, I was just trying to disARM the robber!"

I guess you can call this...kARMa.

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