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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2016, 09:47:00 PM »
No chance of an organized, large scale revolt.  Any stomach or desire for such has been bred out of the populace.

Eh... considering the vast number of vets that have been cycled through the sandbox, and the noises the fed.gov itself has been making about watching them, putting them on "terror indicator lists" etc.

And for the rest of us, "our side" so to speak, has always had it's hands tied, jobs, kids, mortgage etc. Whereas many of "their side" has less to lose, urban poor, academia, renting etc.

Broad brush generalizations, but you get the idea.

Rough analogy, things get froggy enough, the hammer will fall. Venezuela level, for sure (or what Americans would percieve as "Venezuela level"), or just maybe more like a level of Columbia when it was at it's worst with the FARC and narco-terror.
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2016, 08:04:31 AM »
Of course there is fraud, the whole world saw it in Minnesota in the Franken senate race a few years ago.  I don't think Franken was personally involved, I think it was orchestrated by our Democrat secretary of state (who ought to be in prison.)  Multiple recounts, and every time Franken came up short Ritchie said, "Wait a minute, I think there's another box of ballots in the trunk of my car" and counted them again.  He certified it as soon as he got a count that he liked.

IIRC, we had a Republican governor at the time.  It never gets investigated.  Everyone is pissed at Trump for mentioning it because it's not supposed to be talked about.
As a former Minnesotan, I paid some attention to that race. As I recall, dozens of precincts turned in vote counts that exceeded the total of actual ballots cast . . . but these counts were accepted. And Tim Pawlenty, the MN governor at the time, sat idly by with his thumb up his 3rd point of contact and did nothing as the election was stolen in plain sight. And Franken provided the winning vote for Obamacare. <expletive> <expletive> <string of expletives.>

Some years before, Congressman "B1 Bob" Dornan of California "lost" an election in which a post-election sampling documented more fraudulent ballots cast (mostly by illegals) than his opponent's margin of "victory." Yet the courts allowed the result to stand.

A bit more recently, in the last Presidential election in 50+ precincts in IIRC Philadelphia, BHO beat Romney by a margin of 19,605 to 0.

Almost 20k votes cast, and NOBODY voted for Romney, even by mistake. These are the kinds of results that sham elections in the Philippines delivered to Ferdinand Marcos.

What happened?

Nothing.

So . . . if HRC wins and there's some controversy about the legitimacy of the result, expect people like Ryan, McConnell, and JEB! to be in the forefront of those defending the result and denouncing the critics.


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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2016, 08:42:54 AM »
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So . . . if HRC wins and there's some controversy about the legitimacy of the result, expect people like Ryan, McConnell, and JEB! to be in the forefront of those defending the result and denouncing the critics.


Would be ironic, from a Bush.

Putting a D. election in question would also put R. elections in question.  Can't have that.  R.s are go-along get-along guys.

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2016, 08:45:35 AM »
Hillary has already stated that she is going to do everything she can, to include Executive Orders, to go after guns and the 2nd Amendment.

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2016, 10:13:43 AM »

Putting a D. election in question would also put R. elections in question.  Can't have that.  R.s are go-along get-along guys.



This.

No one that matters is going to even give lip service to the existence of election fraud, because they were themselves elected, or appointed by someone elected.

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2016, 10:28:21 AM »
About six weeks ago I read an article regarding fractional voting software.  This was a 'bug' that could be put into the voting machine software that would give one candidate more that 1 vote for every vote cast and the other less that a full vote for each vote they received ... excellent article, reliable source, well documented as being untraceable .... I can't find the  article to share a link .... does anyone else recall such an article and have a link they could share ?

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2016, 10:33:43 AM »
About six weeks ago I read an article regarding fractional voting software.  This was a 'bug' that could be put into the voting machine software that would give one candidate more that 1 vote for every vote cast and the other less that a full vote for each vote they received ... excellent article, reliable source, well documented as being untraceable .... I can't find the  article to share a link .... does anyone else recall such an article and have a link they could share ?

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I understand what you are saying but it doesn't make mathematical or programming sense. I am curious to read the article if anyone else turns it up
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2016, 11:47:08 AM »
So, Hillary Clinton could be the first f president.



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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2016, 11:54:18 AM »
I understand what you are saying but it doesn't make mathematical or programming sense. I am curious to read the article if anyone else turns it up

Actually it would be pretty simple:
When a vote is entered, multiply by some number (eg 1.001, 0.999) add to current total, store internal running totals as a float, then convert to integer for readout/display.

Could be done even easier / more surreptitious by messing around with how floats are treated (since the leading fractional digit is typically truncated), one could easily manipulate the code to treat one entry as leading 1, and the other as leading 0.  

Could also be done by taking advantage of integer wrap and/or a fence-post problem type issue.

Hell, you could even do it by storing totals in such a way where a standard I/o process could only partially read the correct number (like store a total as numeric text rather than a binary integer in an unprotected area of memory on a boundary of some other normal system process that would periodically overwrite trailing digits.
By choosing the process or location, you could effectively have the system round one total down every now and then, while leaving the other alone, and all it would look like is crappy programming, and even then, really subtle.

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2016, 12:50:30 PM »
So, Hillary Clinton could be the first f president.



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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2016, 01:08:56 PM »
I'm not familiar w/ this website but it does discus fractional voting ....

http://blackboxvoting.org/fraction-magic-1/
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2016, 01:12:17 PM »
Just remember.... your legitimate vote cancels out one fraudulent vote.

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2016, 01:40:46 PM »
So, Hillary Clinton could be the first f president.

Oh, she'll be an 'F' all right . . .
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2016, 01:40:59 PM »
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2016, 01:57:25 PM »
not to worry.  Professor Joshua A. Douglas of UK, and barack himself said today, that all these fears of vote fraud are unfounded. 

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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2016, 03:37:42 PM »
CNN put up, and then quickly took back down it's headline of Obama states there is no voter fraud, right after Project Veritas Part II dropped.  :rofl:
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2016, 06:36:25 PM »
CNN dropped the story because they want it to go away, not because of the Project Veritas release.  If they don't talk about it, then it isn't happening.
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2016, 07:20:42 PM »
As has been pointed out in other places regarding the last election:

In every state without voter ID laws, Obama won.

In every state with voter ID laws, Obama lost.
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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2016, 07:32:46 PM »
As has been pointed out in other places regarding the last election:

In every state without voter ID laws, Obama won.

In every state with voter ID laws, Obama lost.


Doesn't that just mean that red states have voter ID laws?


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Re: Hillary wins: If the election results are disbelieved?
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2016, 08:18:47 PM »

Doesn't that just mean that red states have voter ID laws?




Mainly. Since it takes a GOP majority and governor to enact voter ID usually.

It will be interesting to see what happens in WI. We've been "very red" in terms of state politics, majority red in the U.S. House, majority blue over the years in the Senate, but blue since Reagan in the Presidential elections.

Honestly, we need Voter ID and that purple ink they used in Iraq's elections.
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