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Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« on: November 12, 2018, 12:57:18 PM »
When they built our house in the summer of 2015, a smoke detector was installed at the very peak of the cathedral ceiling, 26 feet from the floor in the front door foyer.  The hardwired smoke detector is now chirping, some 3.5 years after installation. I am assuming it needs a new 9 volt battery backup.  The problem is that I don't have an extension ladder that goes that high.  The saving grace to the situation is that my wife cannot hear the chirping, although I and anyone else coming to the house can hear it.

Is this going to continue chirping forever?  Other than cursing the person who thought it was a good idea to install a smoke detector that high up, is there anything I can do?  I really don't want to buy a 30 foot extension ladder for several hundred dollars and store it for only one use.  I have extension ladders that are long enough already for my required outdoor use on the house.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 01:02:56 PM »
Got a pellet gun?  =D

In all seriousness, I don't think the hardwired ones stop chirping until the backup battery is replaced. My suggestion would be to see if you can rent a ladder* (if you never see the need to owning one of that length), get up there, and disconnect the thing. You can still leave the cover on for aesthetics. Then get yourself a battery smoke detector and mount it in a more reasonable place.

*Or if you can't find one to rent, just bite the bullet and hire a handyman to disconnect it.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 01:03:30 PM »
Oops, I thought this was a “what calibre for...” thread.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2018, 01:03:53 PM »
My experience says "Yes, it will go on forever."  Also, note that some smoke detectors will now chirp when the reach the end of their 10 year life.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2018, 01:11:48 PM »
I have a Mr. Longarm fiberglass extension pole and bulb changing kit that I use for the ceiling bulbs.  I am trying to figure out if there is any sort of attachment that would work for this.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2018, 01:18:30 PM »
I have a Mr. Longarm fiberglass extension pole and bulb changing kit that I use for the ceiling bulbs.  I am trying to figure out if there is any sort of attachment that would work for this.

I'm thinking you're out of luck. I've never had a smoke detector where the battery came out or went in easy. In fact many of them have a stupid little rotating battery compartment. I don't see any way for your extension pole to work for that. Also on the hardwired ones, disconnecting often takes two hands.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2018, 01:19:56 PM »
Any nearby neighbors that may have a ladder?
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2018, 01:21:37 PM »
Newer hard-wired smoke detectors are also interconnected. More than likely, disabling one will put the rest of the system into fault mode, and may trigger the entire system.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2018, 01:22:53 PM »
I have a Mr. Longarm fiberglass extension pole and bulb changing kit that I use for the ceiling bulbs.  I am trying to figure out if there is any sort of attachment that would work for this.

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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2018, 01:25:05 PM »
Any nearby neighbors that may have a ladder?

None with a ladder that high.  Plus, the foyer is about seven feet wide, so I am figuring out that even if I find a long enough ladder, can the base of the ladder be angled out away from the wall a sufficient distance for safety?
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2018, 01:25:47 PM »
Newer hard-wired smoke detectors are also interconnected. More than likely, disabling one will put the rest of the system into fault mode, and may trigger the entire system.

Ugh. That's a new one on me. Sucks.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2018, 01:26:43 PM »
I would also add that when they were building the house and running wiring and drywall for the cathedral areas, and doing the repairs from when the tree fell on the house, they had a scaffold to get up that high. They did not do any ladder work.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2018, 01:31:27 PM »
Planning on putting Christmas lights or decorations on your house?  Maybe you can kill two birds with one rental.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2018, 02:16:17 PM »
Rent a ladder. Better yet, a scissor lift. 26 feet doesn't seem like much looking up. Looking down off a rickety ladder... ? Different story.

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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2018, 03:29:14 PM »
What Brad said.  People are tempted to do something like this, but 30 feet is in the fatal fall category:

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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 03:35:06 PM »
Also check with your local fire department. Some offer smoke detector battery changing as a public service thing.

... and they have ladders.

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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2018, 06:12:00 PM »
My last 2 chirping smoke alarms needed to have the entire units replaced as they had reached their 10yr life expectancy … most modern household alarms are required to be interconnected which can cause quite a ruckus when all the alarms in the house go off.  I believe you can simply disconnect the alarm from the system and remove the battery to silence it.  I removed the alarms w/o disturbing the rest in the house simply by disconnecting the ones I was replacing.  Took a couple days to get replacements and the other alarms were silent during that period.

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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2018, 07:38:33 PM »
What Brad said.  People are tempted to do something like this, but 30 feet is in the fatal fall category:


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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2018, 08:10:50 PM »
I guess I am lucky.  My Dad is retired from doing commercial and industrial fire protection stuff.  He has always had his own extension ladders as well as scrap pipe.  Those extension ladders go higher than I would want to climb.  The scissor lift idea is great if you can get it into the house. 
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2018, 09:25:13 PM »
Wait!  Brainstorm idea!

Make the wall closest to the smoke alarm a climbing wall.  Then climb up and change the battery.  Success!  Thanks me later.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2018, 09:40:42 PM »
And I thought the ones mounted on our ~12 foot ceilings were bad.... :facepalm:

Does yours also have a tendency to start chirping at night right after you've just managed to get to sleep?
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2018, 09:42:56 PM »
I contacted my local fire district.  They are happy to come out with their longer ladders and replace the battery.  I had the thought of posting this on our neighborhood FB page to see if we can get a bunch of people who need this done.  I know I have several neighbors with the same floor plan. I would feel better about taking an engine out of service for more than just me.  I am going to try to arrange a weekend date for a week out or so.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2018, 09:47:20 PM »
you ought to see if you can replace it with a 10 year battery smoke detector
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2018, 09:59:25 PM »
you ought to see if you can replace it with a 10 year battery smoke detector

I stopped at Lowe's on the way home, and they were all out of the 10 year lithium 9 volt batteries, so I ordered a two-pack from Amazon.
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Re: Chirping smoke detector 26 feet up
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2018, 10:02:08 PM »
you ought to see if you can replace it with a 10 year battery smoke detector

Yup, that's what I do now. Some of the First Alert ones will even fit right into the same mounting plate as the hardwired ones (if First Alert), so just twist old housing off, new housing on, and no drilling.
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