Author Topic: 19 year old with rifle kills one and injures three in California synagogue shoot (Read 2944 times)

MillCreek · « **on:** April 27, 2019, 06:12:21 PM »

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/poway-synagogue-shooting-chabad-way-san-diego-sherrifs-department-509162631.html

On the last day of Passover, no less.

makattak · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2019, 06:15:25 PM »

When I heard one dead, I hoped it was the shooter, as is often the case.

Sadly, it appears he survived.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2019, 06:26:16 PM »

Rifle obtained legally?
"Assault weapon," or not?
Islamic terrorism?
Is the synagogue a gun-free zone?

lie to downplay the seriousness of such incidents. In this case:

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As the suspect fled the scene, an off-duty U.S. Border Patrol agent who was in the synagogue at the time of the shooting opened fire on the suspect, missing the man but striking his vehicle, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore said.
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"We are grateful to those in the congregation there that engaged the shooter and prevented this from being a much more horrific incident," [Mayor Steve] Vaus told MSNBC.

"Those there" was one Border Patrol agent. And he didn't prevent it from being a "much more horrific incident" -- he opened fire as the gunman was already unassing the area of operations.[/list]

WLJ · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2019, 06:30:28 PM »

Cue the calls to impeach Trump since it's obviously his fault

WLJ · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2019, 06:34:32 PM »

Yep, Trump's fault
The tweets a little bit down the page.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/04/27/one-killed-three-injured-in-shooting-at-california-synagogue-president-trump-blamed/

castle key · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2019, 07:37:20 PM »

Passover worshipers......

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2019, 07:51:26 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on April 27, 2019, 06:26:16 PM

I have the usual questions, some of which may (or may not) be answered as more news filters out:

"Assault weapon," or not?

"AR-type assault weapon" according to CBS News:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1122258312156860416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1122258312156860416

The fact that these are already banned in California will be ignored by most media.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:26:30 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on April 27, 2019, 07:51:26 PM

"AR-type assault weapon" according to CBS News:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1122258312156860416/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1122258312156860416

The fact that these are already banned in California will be ignored by most media.

Yeah, and I'll bet his didn't even have the "bullet button."

WLJ · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2019, 08:30:48 PM »

Surprisingly few casualties for someone using an actual AR. Why do I have a suspicion this a 22?

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2019, 10:14:16 PM »

At the link is a manifesto, supposedly from the shooter: https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

Lots of ranting against Jews. The author has a very skewed idea of Christianity.

lee n. field · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2019, 10:56:52 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on April 27, 2019, 10:14:16 PM

At the link is a manifesto, supposedly from the shooter: https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

Lots of ranting against Jews. The author has a very skewed idea of Christianity.

check for brain abnormalities

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2019, 11:33:50 PM »

Quote from: the alleged manifesto

“Are you a Trump supporter?”

You mean that Zionist, Jew-loving, anti-White, traitorous *expletive*? Don’t make me laugh.

Okay, so Trump is a white nationalist according to some, and anti-white according to others.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2019, 11:48:12 PM »

Quote from: lee n. field on April 27, 2019, 10:56:52 PM

check for brain abnormalities

It's California. The abnormal is normal in California.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2019, 11:52:49 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on April 27, 2019, 08:26:30 PM

Yeah, and I'll bet his didn't even have the "bullet button."

https://twitter.com/BrandonNews8/status/1122249998152818688

Can't tell if it has a "bullet button" or not.

Since 2016, bullet buttons don't make the rifle legal anyway.

WLJ · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2019, 08:29:23 AM »

The Tin Foil hatters are active as usual in comment section for the The Truth about Guns article on the shooting. Glad to see other commenters ripping them.

Ron · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2019, 08:55:58 AM »

I haven’t read a lot about him but it looks like they finally got the full blown anti-Jewish racist the left wingers accuse the alt right of fomenting.

grampster · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2019, 08:57:18 AM »

Off duty BP agent did not have a carry gun. He had to go retrieve a firearm that was hidden away in the building.

WLJ · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2019, 09:08:10 AM »

Reading his gun may have gun jammed.

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Police say the suspect is a resident of San Diego who was armed with an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle. There is initial suspicion that the weapon may have jammed during the shooting, limiting the loss of life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6967437/Several-injured-gun-man-opens-fire-San-Diego-Synagogue.html

WLJ · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2019, 09:10:07 AM »

Meanwhile in Chicago
And almost completely ignored by the MSM I might add

April to Date
Shot & Killed: 53
Shot & Wounded: 176
Total Shot: 229
Total Homicides: 54

Last Week’s Totals (4/21 – 4/27)
Shot & Killed: 12
Shot & Wounded: 52
Total Shot: 64
Total Homicides: 12

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 127
Shot & Wounded: 532
Total Shot: 659
Total Homicides: 138

https://heyjackass.com/

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2019, 12:47:12 PM »

Quote from: grampster on April 28, 2019, 08:57:18 AM

Off duty BP agent did not have a carry gun. He had to go retrieve a firearm that was hidden away in the building.

Was the synagogue a gun-free zone?

Are houses of worship ALL gun-free zones by law in California?

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2019, 01:12:52 PM »

Quote from: WLJ on April 27, 2019, 06:34:32 PM

Yep, Trump's fault
The tweets a little bit down the page.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/04/27/one-killed-three-injured-in-shooting-at-california-synagogue-president-trump-blamed/

Let's see -- if a shooter loves Trump, then it's Trump's fault because he incites his followers to commit random acts of hatred and violence.

If a shooter hates Trump, then it's Trump's fault because Trump is backing the Jooz in a conspiracy to take over the world.

In other words ... if a shooter shoots, IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT BECAUSE TRUMP!

brimic · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2019, 03:27:50 PM »

Why shouldn’t we be saying that the left has been inciting something like his to happen with their rhetoric?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/28/media/ny-times-anti-semitic-cartoon/index.html

slugcatcher · « **Reply #22 on:** April 29, 2019, 08:53:32 AM »

I hate to link to another forum, but here is some actual information from a member of the synagogue. His screen name is Drsalee and he's a long time poster on arfcom.
www.ar15.com/forums/General/Shooting-at-synagogue-in-Poway-CA/5-2215936/?page=1

Pb · « **Reply #23 on:** April 29, 2019, 09:31:32 AM »

Quote from: Ron on April 28, 2019, 08:55:58 AM

I haven’t read a lot about him but it looks like they finally got the full blown anti-Jewish racist the left wingers accuse the alt right of fomenting.

A lot of the alt-right do hate Jews.

WLJ · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2019, 09:47:34 AM »

https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1122550445136850944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Ilhan Omar
‏Verified account @IlhanMN

Earnest shot & killed Jewish worshippers and bombed a Masjid 🕌

Islamophobia and Anti-Semitism are two sides of the same bigoted coin.

Let us stand together as Americans in rejecting hate!

👇🏽my Nov. OpEd on the rise of Anti-Semitism hate crimes.

Bombed a Masjid? (aka Mosque) Did I miss something?