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Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« on: May 09, 2019, 08:41:16 PM »
Bet none of them had their California lead warning labels

Mystery surrounds 1,000 guns seized at Bel-Air mansion connected to Getty family
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-saenz-arrest-gun-investigation-20190509-story.html



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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2019, 09:18:56 PM »
From other pictures I saw, it looked like 90% of them were revolvers and the typical "hunting rifles and shotguns" that the antis say they don't want to ban. Looked like quite a few milsurps of the bolt action variety. It'll be interesting to watch for any "weapons of war" talk.
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2019, 10:26:31 PM »
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“This is a big stash,” Ramirez told reporters at the scene. “It’s beyond comprehension that somebody can have so many weapons in a residence like this, in a neighborhood like this.”

Beyond comprehension? Are you kidding me? More like "life goals"  =D
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2019, 11:09:58 PM »
He even had some evil lever actions.

Fer shame. Fer shame.




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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2019, 11:22:53 PM »
Bet every last one is going to be crushed
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2019, 11:28:45 PM »
Evil Assault Rifles were present.  Horror!!!
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2019, 01:18:43 AM »
Oh, lookie!  In the lower left of the picture, above the ATF agent!!! A TOMMY-GUN!!!   >:D
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2019, 01:48:49 AM »
Really interested on the almost non existent back story on this- was it a "red flag" seizure? Or what? It does not look like any kind of criminal activity, unless it is a stolen collection(s) .17 target rifles, contenders, pythons etc-not arms one associates with the criminal class.
I wonder if there was any real reason other than "there are a lot of guns". I mean, they will make up a bunch of charges after they look at everything- but did they have a good reason for the raid?
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2019, 05:49:18 AM »
They won’t say beyond hinting at “illegal sales”...yet haven’t charged anyone and always repeat
the phrase “no one was in danger” on the news stories.

Sounds like theft to me
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2019, 08:29:57 AM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on May 10, 2019, 05:49:18 AM
They won’t say beyond hinting at “illegal sales”...yet haven’t charged anyone and always repeat
the phrase “no one was in danger” on the news stories.

Sounds like theft to me

Sounds like "I don't like that guy because/and he has too many guns, so I'll call the police" to me.
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2019, 09:11:27 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on May 10, 2019, 08:29:57 AM
Sounds like "I don't like that guy because/and he has too many guns, so I'll call the police" to me.

Yup. He's currently out on bond with no charges filed. It appears he's also an FFL, though I didn't see what kind. I wouldn't be surprised if they go the "Kavanaugh yearbook" route and find some woman from 30 years ago to accuse him of domestic abuse so they can use the red flag law.

If he was indeed selling guns illegally to criminals, then he should face the range of standard punishments. This just looks like "too many guns" optics to me though.
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2019, 10:10:34 AM »
I was trying to find a link, but wasn't there a gun owner who had his expensive collection confiscated and destroyed.  I believe he successfully sued under RICO statutes and won.
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Re: Over 1,000 guns seized from home in LA
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2019, 02:26:10 PM »
Hard to really tell, but it looks like a mostly C&R collection to me.

I'm hoping he's clean as a whistle, and I wonder what liability accrues to the police if the collection is damaged or destroyed. If it was a red flag situation, I'm sure the law would protect the whiner.   I assume a judge has to sign off on these red flag issues, too, and of course he or she is protected.

And yeah, the Kavanaugh Assault even if he is clean on the firearms licensing.

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