More proof that people are stupid

[K Frame]

The chances of me ever crossing the border into Mexico are somewhere between "are you out of your *expletive deleted*ing mind" to "No goddamned way, Jose!"

Canada, on the other hand? They have ice wine. Yeah!

[lupinus]

South Carolina seems somewhat easy on the two documents thing

a) Unexpired SC beginner’s permit, driver’s license, ID, or vehicle registration: must
show your current residential address or your updated address must be on file within
the SCDMV’s system if it is not reflected on your credential.
b) Unexpired SC Concealed Weapons Permit (CWP); Fishing/hunting licenses or
boat/jet ski registrations (Department of Natural Resources products).
c) Voter registration card; County tax bill or property tax receipt for your vehicle or
home (current or preceding calendar year) Must be mailed to your SC address.
d) State or federal tax records Income tax returns for current or prior year are
acceptable including electronic tax file, W-2 Form, or Form 1095-B Health [insurance]
Coverage. You must be listed as a primary tax payer or dependent.
e) School records – must be from an SC school, college or university unless otherwise
noted (current or prior school year).
 Report card (must show your name and current SC address)
 Letter or contract from Home Schooling Association.
 Official letter from your school or school district on school or district letterhead
(must indicate enrollment period).
 Transcript (SC school, college or university).
 Out-of-state or in-state tuition bill or receipt of student loan.
 Letter from an out-of-state boarding school or a professional career development
institute indicating that you live in SC and attend school out-of-state.
f) Social security check or annual statement.

If presenting one of the following items, it cannot be more than 90 DAYS OLD.
g) Utility bill, payment receipt, or approved application for services at your current SC
residence (mailed to your SC address, not an out-of-state address): may be a water,
sewer, gas and electricity, cable/satellite TV, internet, cell phone, or telephone bill.
h) Financial statements: credit card or bank statement or signed letter on bank
letterhead: must also show your name and SC physical address as the account
holder.
i) Home mortgage monthly statement or deed.
j) Insurance documentation from a company licensed to do business in SC:
 Automobile or life insurance bill or payment receipt (cards or policies are not
accepted).
 Health insurance statement, payment receipt, explanation of benefits (cards or
policies are not accepted).
 Homeowner’s insurance policy, payment receipt, or bill.
k) Current letter of employment or payroll stub/statement from an SC or out-of-
state employer.
l) US Postal Service letter or item delivered by the US Post Office:
 Change of address confirmation letter or postmarked US mail with forwarding
address label must contain your first and last name, state and zip code.
 Any postmarked mail showing your name and delivered by the US Post Office to
your current address such as: personal letters, or magazines (not
advertisements).
m) Parolee letter from parole officer.
n) Letter from director of SC social welfare institution (such as a homeless
shelter, battered women’s shelter, halfway house, group home, orphanage) stating
you are a resident of the facility.
o) Other documents issued by federal/state/municipal government.[\quote]

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[Fly320s]

Canada, on the other hand? They have ice wine. Yeah!

And poutine.

[K Frame]

I can make poutine.

I can't make ice wine.

[Hawkmoon]

The chances of me ever crossing the border into Mexico are somewhere between "are you out of your *expletive deleted*ing mind" to "No goddamned way, Jose!"

I agree completely. My late wife's cousin is a professor at a university in Mexico City. When he visited us several years ago, he said, "Sergia can visit me in Mexico because she's a Latina. You -- don't go to Mexico." A friend in Brazil told me the same thing.

Nonetheless, the last time I got a new passport I opted for the passport card, too. I just thought it was a good thing to have -- and I don't think I knew about Real ID at the time. My driver's license is now Real ID compliant but, if I hadn't been able to scrounge up all the required documentation, I could have just carried the passport card and not worried about my non-Real ID driver's license.

An advantage to using the passport card is that it doesn't have your address on it, so it's a way to let fewer people know where there's an empty house to burgle.

[zxcvbob]

Wife is gathering doc to upgrade her DL; I think I mentioned that earlier.  She also needs a copy of our marriage license because her name no longer matchs her birth certificate.   (something else for the ladies to deal with that we might not think about)  I have to go dig thru the safe deposit box again this afternoon for it.

[Brad Johnson]

From what I've seen, necessary document requirements are neither egregious nor extensive. Pretty simple, actually. It's just a matter of finding the time and having the docs on hand.

Brad

[K Frame]

Virginia doesn't specifically state that they're acceptable, but I'm going to try to use my CCW as one of my proofs of address.

[K Frame]

From what I've seen, necessary document requirements are neither egregious nor extensive. Pretty simple, actually. It's just a matter of finding the time and having the docs on hand.

Brad

Way to be subsumed by "da man," Brad.

One of them, one of them! 

[Brad Johnson]

Way to be subsumed by "da man," Brad.

One of them, one of them! 

"Gooble-Gobble"
"Gooble-Gobble"
"One of us!"
"One of us!"

I guess we're lucky. From what I understand, Texas DL/ID documentation requirements met Real ID standards before Real ID was an itch in some senator's pants. For us, having the Little Gold Star is just a matter of getting a replacement DL/ID card. I did an address change back in November and my new card had the star.

Brad

[230RN]

Black star would be a good way to identify a convicted felon, person adjudicated mentally defective, drug addict, or someone other wise prohibited from purchasing a firearm. Presto! Universal background check!    

Jeeze, I hope you're kidding, because I don't remember doing anything to satisfy Black Star Real ID requirements except having the same address on my DL for almost 25 years and my third CCW renewal went right through slickely and smoothely..  Maybe that's how they picked  up "the proof."

That could be it, because, as I've said before, the CCW is way more bulletproof an ID procedure than the driver's license.

On the other hand, being 81 yo, I don't remember much of anything except my two weddings.

And even the weddings are a little fuzzy.

Terry

[zxcvbob]

I dug the marriage license out of the safe deposit box.  Wife was looking at it, and it says we were married on April 16, 1986.  I'd never really looked at it before.  We were actually married on April 19 (and I just looked at a 1986 calendar to make sure the 19th was on a Saturday.)

I assume at this point it doesn't really matter, and getting the county/state record corrected would be more hassle than it's worth?  The preacher who performed the ceremony is a not-too-distant cousin of mine and he's still alive.  He'll probably think this is funny...

[Brad Johnson]

License issuance date, or actual marriage "pastor signed on the dotted line" date?

Brad

[charby]

People stupid or people lazy?

[230RN]

When do they check for star type or RealID at the airports?  On check in to restricted areas, on buying a ticket, or on boarding the plane?

[K Frame]

April 19, 1986?

My 21st birthday!

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[zxcvbob]

License issuance date, or actual marriage "pastor signed on the dotted line" date?

Brad

That's a good question.  I'll have to look when I get home.

[Doggy Daddy]

Not exactly a drive-by.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NPpO4gbeU

[Hawkmoon]

When do they check for star type or RealID at the airports?  On check in to restricted areas, on buying a ticket, or on boarding the plane?

Both (a) and (c).

[Hawkmoon]

Not exactly a drive-by.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NPpO4gbeU

More like a stand-by.

[Doggy Daddy]

More like a stand-by.

Har de har har.   

[230RN]

Thanks, Hawkmoon.  Haven't flown since mid-70s.  Nowadays, what happens if you have to fly to get to a relative's funeral and don't have a star?  Are  you *expletive deleted*it out of luck?

[Perd Hapley]

Thanks, Hawkmoon.  Haven't flown since mid-70s.  Nowadays, what happens if you have to fly to get to a relative's funeral and don't have a star?  Are  you *expletive deleted*it out of luck?

You'll want to maintain a current passport.

I guess having visited Mexico and Canada with nothing but a DL makes me an old fogey.

[Hawkmoon]

Thanks, Hawkmoon.  Haven't flown since mid-70s.  Nowadays, what happens if you have to fly to get to a relative's funeral and don't have a star?  Are  you *expletive deleted*it out of luck?

One of the articles I read about Real ID suggested that people whose driver's license is not Real ID-compliant might still be allowed to fly if they go through a lengthy interrogation and satisfy the TSA drones that they are who they say they are.

Personally, I couldn't count on it.

But ... "nowadays" you don't need Real ID. That becomes mandatory in October.

[dogmush]

Thanks, Hawkmoon.  Haven't flown since mid-70s.  Nowadays, what happens if you have to fly to get to a relative's funeral and don't have a star?  Are  you *expletive deleted*it out of luck?

Pretty much.  Assuming they don't push the implementation back again, after Oct, you will need a READ ID compliant card to board an airplane.  If your State has dropped the ball there are some other ID's you can get that count (Passport is the easiest), but yeah, no flights for you without ID.