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Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« on: July 15, 2020, 09:10:20 AM »
man with knife EATS 9 BULLETS before stopping - Eaton police shooting breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDA7y63N8r4

I didn't post this for the commentary, but I thought the video was pretty good showing the knife wielding guy attacking the officer.  I can't tell how many times the officer hit him, but it took a few shots and a few seconds for the shots to take an effect.  The officer let him get pretty close.  

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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2020, 09:38:25 AM »
Clean malf drill as well.

Nice job.

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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2020, 09:42:00 AM »
Wow. She handled herself well, especially with the jam, and perhaps moreso with the close-in engagement.

The peanut gallery comments are a little infuriating. I guess I'm speaking from the peanut gallery myself, but I would almost rather get shot than get stabbed or slashed, based on images and video I have seen of the latter. I would not want to trust my life with a taser in something like this example.

I could envision a situation where if there were two or more officers, one deploys the taser, and if there is no effect, the other is already on target and starts pulling the trigger. Just one on one though? The gun was the right call here.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2020, 10:00:49 AM »
Clean malf drill as well.

Nice job.

Saw that, good job on clearing it on her part. Guess the malfunction was caused by him grabbing the gun*, something to consider practicing for.
*Hold on. At first I though he caused the malfunction but going frame by frame I think the gun jammed even before he touched it.

Any word on word on ammo used? It's a narrow frame Glock so either 9mm or 40S&W.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2020, 10:05:47 AM »
Yep, on closer inspection I'm convinced he didn't cause the malfunction
At 0.3:27 the slide appears to be locked back and was still locked back when he reached for it. You may not catch it unless you view it frame by frame.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2020, 01:33:21 PM »
Wow. She handled herself well, especially with the jam, and perhaps moreso with the close-in engagement.

The peanut gallery comments are a little infuriating. I guess I'm speaking from the peanut gallery myself, but I would almost rather get shot than get stabbed or slashed, based on images and video I have seen of the latter. I would not want to trust my life with a taser in something like this example.

I could envision a situation where if there were two or more officers, one deploys the taser, and if there is no effect, the other is already on target and starts pulling the trigger. Just one on one though? The gun was the right call here.

Wow. The stupidity almost makes you wish we could uninvent less-lethal tech. At least then we'd only have to deal with shoot-em-in-the-leg idiocy.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2020, 03:22:38 PM »
Ferfal covers this one as well as another knife encounter that didn't turn out as good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgklVbx9xY
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2020, 08:24:06 PM »
I heard some commentary that suggested she may have drawn her gun poorly in panic and fired the first few shots with a poor grip, missed the shots, limp wristed the gun causing a malfunction, then got it together after the malfunction drill and plugged the guy. 

IMO, I can't tell that from the video, but it is something to keep in mind.  Also why we should do draw practice. 
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2020, 02:34:13 PM »
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limp wristed the gun causing a malfunction

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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2020, 03:20:58 PM »
And carry revolvers.

Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2020, 03:25:39 PM »
Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.

https://youtu.be/PE9RDQw9ZL0?t=44
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2020, 10:46:47 PM »
Do we have confirmation on how many shots connected? The one article seems to indicate nine. Not that we should expect a cop or you or me to connect with every shot. Or maybe we should expect it but *expletive deleted*it happens and I'd hate to be three shots short in a situation like that.

I think all shots hit him, i read it somewhere today.
Connect with every shot?

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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2020, 10:50:16 PM »
I think all shots hit him, i read it somewhere today.
Connect with every shot?

 I am great on the range, the one time i shot in an emergency I missed 12 times.
I scared the coyote fortunately  :rofl:

You drop anvils on coyotes
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 04:58:46 AM »
man with knife EATS 9 BULLETS before stopping - Eaton police shooting breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDA7y63N8r4

I didn't post this for the commentary, but I thought the video was pretty good showing the knife wielding guy attacking the officer.  I can't tell how many times the officer hit him, but it took a few shots and a few seconds for the shots to take an effect.  The officer let him get pretty close.  


Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.

I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2020, 09:50:06 AM »
Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.

I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.

The video download utility that comes with Avast browser saves the video to .mp4 format, which Moviemaker recognizes.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2020, 10:23:26 AM »
The video download utility that comes with Avast browser saves the video to .mp4 format, which Moviemaker recognizes.
Or just paste the link into here: https://youtube-video.download/ and download the mp4.

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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2020, 10:28:28 AM »
Firefox has multiple youtube download plugins.  They won't always download at the original resolution. 
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2020, 10:36:53 AM »
On the tangent, good reminder for me to download a bunch of youtube videos. I have an online "reference" folder in my youtube account that has a bunch of how-to videos, some that were hard to find (like maintenance videos for my tractor) and you never know when someone is going to delete their youtube account and that info disappears.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2020, 10:40:56 AM »
Angeleys, cordex, MechAg94 -- thanks, but I know how to download the video. To make it useful in a training situation, I want ot edit out the Donut Operator editorial comments and save just the portions that depict the actual incident. It downloads in a format I don't have any programs to handle.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2020, 10:49:12 AM »
What format is it in?
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2020, 06:19:54 PM »
What format is it in?


The file extension is .ve
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2020, 08:29:13 PM »
Does anyone know how I can edit a grab of this video to eliminate the extranea and just retain the actual footage of the shooting? I think it will be useful for teaching CCW classes.

I tried Moviemaker, but it's not a file format that Moviemaker recognizes.

Take the original link and change the "youtube" part to "youtubepp"  It gives you a variety of formats to download.  (most of them mp4 with different resolutions)
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2020, 10:33:51 PM »
Donut Operator is a youtube rabbit hole.  Good stuff.
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2020, 02:11:49 AM »
great video analysis, you need to see this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2ZVl49YWI
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Re: Michigan Deputy Shoots Stabbing Suspect with Knife
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2020, 10:40:49 AM »
great video analysis, you need to see this one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2ZVl49YWI

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