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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #75 on: January 28, 2021, 03:46:56 PM »
People are saying in the chat Spacex is saying they have approval
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2021, 03:50:23 PM »
Could be Spacex is going for a static test if they didn't actually get approval
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2021, 03:55:46 PM »
Still no FAA waiver according to the talking heads.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #78 on: January 28, 2021, 03:56:17 PM »
Darn it. depressurization
Could recycle or could just been a test .
FAA approval were just rumors. 
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #79 on: January 28, 2021, 04:27:32 PM »
They were going for a launch but didn't get approval  :mad:
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #80 on: January 28, 2021, 05:41:34 PM »
See what happens tomorrow.
Honestly, I think Musk was playing chicken with the FAA
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #81 on: January 28, 2021, 06:10:52 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on January 28, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
According to the FAA no launch until tomorrow.



Totally not related to the wallstreet shenanigans and Musk's offer to slap the GS logo on his next rocket if GME hits $1000/share.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #82 on: January 28, 2021, 07:02:39 PM »
Why does any space launch require FAA approval?  I don't need "approval" to go fly, I just have to fit into the system.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2021, 07:05:06 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on January 28, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
Why does any space launch require FAA approval?  I don't need "approval" to go fly, I just have to fit into the system.

Because shut up peasant.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #84 on: January 28, 2021, 07:10:03 PM »
Quote from: kgbsquirrel on January 28, 2021, 07:05:06 PM
Because shut up peasant.

Roger that.

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It used to be that the FAA worked for pilots.  We told them what we intended to do and they made it happen.  We also used to fly around without radar or flight following or talking to anyone.  Now, every student pilot I hear on the radio is using flight following and asking permission to fly their plane.  Damn students use flight following even on a beautiful VMC day in Florida.  The idea of self-sufficiency is dying.

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #85 on: January 28, 2021, 07:47:21 PM »
They need permission in the form of a waiver.  The waiver allows the rocket folks to fly their rockets.  The FAA will issue NOTAMs and such to warn pilots such as yourself not to fly in the area of rocket launches.  A rocket can break your airplane if it bumps into it.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2021, 07:57:16 PM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2021, 08:06:37 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on January 28, 2021, 07:10:03 PM
Roger that.

<rant on>

It used to be that the FAA worked for pilots.  We told them what we intended to do and they made it happen.  We also used to fly around without radar or flight following or talking to anyone.  Now, every student pilot I hear on the radio is using flight following and asking permission to fly their plane.  Damn students use flight following even on a beautiful VMC day in Florida.  The idea of self-sufficiency is dying.

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Yup.  FAA and FCC were created out of the need for deconfliction of shared air and EM spectrum.  And like everything corrupted by those who seek power it has been turned into an instrument of control.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2021, 08:08:30 PM »
Quote from: RocketMan on January 28, 2021, 07:47:21 PM
They need permission in the form of a waiver.  The waiver allows the rocket folks to fly their rockets.  The FAA will issue NOTAMs and such to warn pilots such as yourself not to fly in the area of rocket launches.  A rocket can break your airplane if it bumps into it.

You're right, of course.  It just sounds like the FAA is refusing to do its job and clear the airspace for the launch.  That airspace isn't very crowded these days.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2021, 08:12:20 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on January 28, 2021, 08:08:30 PM
You're right, of course.  It just sounds like the FAA is refusing to do its job and clear the airspace for the launch.  That airspace isn't very crowded these days.

Sounds like they (SpaceX) just need to issue a, NOTAM?, notice to airmen or some such, "hey, we will try to fly a rocket here during this time frame, please go around" and do their thing.  FAA control freaks can pound sand down a rat hole.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2021, 08:15:34 PM »
The FAA doesn't ask me before the A-10's come in at tree top level. Why should I need to ask them before I launch a rocket?
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2021, 08:18:00 PM »
Quote from: Jim147 on January 28, 2021, 08:15:34 PM
The FAA doesn't ask me before the A-10's come in at tree top level. Why should I need to ask them before I launch a rocket?

Just don't launch one at the A-10s, they can have a bad temper.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2021, 08:24:19 PM »
I think the FAA statement  is that they have a "safety concern" with the vehicle.  Considering the 50/50 chance it will explode on a good day, I'm not sure what that means.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2021, 08:56:18 PM »
Lot of tin foil hat talk on the internet over this. Some of it includes talk of Biden, Jeff Bezos, & the Chinese.

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2021, 10:37:09 PM »
Are they all getting stoned?
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2021, 10:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Jim147 on January 28, 2021, 10:37:09 PM
Are they all getting stoned?

I think the internet is stoned at times
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #96 on: January 28, 2021, 10:58:43 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on January 28, 2021, 08:56:18 PM
Lot of tin foil hat talk on the internet over this. Some of it includes talk of Biden, Jeff Bezos, & the Chinese.

Nothing the democrats pulled would surprise me. Including throwing up insurmountable regulatory roadblocks to kill SpaceX.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2021, 11:43:00 PM »
SpaceX now being investigated for "hiring bias" because they hire U.S. citizens and not foreigners.

ETA: exculpatory evidence being omitted by the national propaganda that I've seen: foreign nationals can't hold security clearances and space rockets are a dual use technology with all sorts of security clearance requirements; if you can build a satellite booster, you can build an ICBM. 
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2021, 07:31:11 AM »
SpaceX starts launching from ships in 5.......4.......3........
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2021, 07:33:19 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on January 29, 2021, 07:31:11 AM
SpaceX starts launching from ships in 5.......4.......3........

Still get FAA oversight because they are a US company.
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