F150s to Come With Built-In Scales

[Ben]

I don't know how this will work in practice, but in theory I think it's an awesome idea and wish I had a scale in mine.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/ford-f-150-built-in-scales-payload-weight

[K Frame]

*expletive deleted*it. That is pretty damned cool.

[zahc]

Should be easy enough just with some linkage and potentiometer to measure sag.

If it's air suspension it's even easier by measuring pressure. That's how semi trucks do it.

[charby]

So, Ford found a way to add another $10k to the price of a 1/2 pickup. 

[K Frame]

So, Ford found a way to add another $10k to the price of a 1/2 pickup. 

How DARE you try to put a price on progress!

[tokugawa]

"License and registration, Mr. Jones?"
"Thank you Mr. Jones."
" Looks like you are running a bit over max weight, Mr. Jones, according to the  scale."
" Just sign this ticket."
 "Or we can impound your vehicle and bring it, at your expense, to our calibrated scale."
 "Thank you ,Mr. Jones."

[Nick1911]

So, Ford found a way to add another $10k to the price of a 1/2 pickup. 

It's certainty a weird market.  When wrestling with the transmission of my F250, I was casually poking around at used trucks to see what's out there.  Yikes, at least around here, a used F250 4x4 is rare and expensive.

[WLJ]

Be fun to hack the system and have it moo when individuals over a certain weight get in   

[charby]

It's certainty a weird market.  When wrestling with the transmission of my F250, I was casually poking around at used trucks to see what's out there.  Yikes, at least around here, a used F250 4x4 is rare and expensive.

It is, I've narrowed my next vehicle to a couple vehicles and a gas 4x4 F250 is one I am considering. How cow batman they are expensive used. I only drive about 5k a year on my personal vehicle so something with 50k on the clock would rust apart before I wore it out.

[Brad Johnson]

Should be easy enough just with some linkage and potentiometer to measure sag.

If it's air suspension it's even easier by measuring pressure. That's how semi trucks do it.

Simple load cells on the spring perch or bed mount bushings would work, too.

Brad

[Brad Johnson]

It is, I've narrowed my next vehicle to a couple vehicles and a gas 4x4 F250 is one I am considering. How cow batman they are expensive used. I only drive about 5k a year on my personal vehicle so something with 50k on the clock would rust apart before I wore it out.

What's your budget? I've been helping Dad find a new service rig and might have some leads.

Brad

[Ben]

So, Ford found a way to add another $10k to the price of a 1/2 pickup. 

Ok Debbie downer. 

I was thinking going gasser f250 on the next truck, but not at these prices.

[BobR]

Something to do that has been around for a while. Ford probably bought it from them or made their own. Some Keystone 5th wheels also have a built in scale so you can see you total weight and weight distribution.

https://www.curtmfg.com/betterweigh

bob

[Jim147]

It would be kinda scary knowing how much I have hauled at times.

[dogmush]

I wonder how many times I'll be cruising down the interstate and see the blinking fourth LED in the taillights of the truck passing me doing 90?

[charby]

What's your budget? I've been helping Dad find a new service rig and might have some leads.

Brad

I'm probably at least 2 years away, but under $20k. Right now that is a unicorn to find a gas F250 4x4, 4 door, long box, under 50,000 miles for under $20k.

[dogmush]

There's obviously regional differences, but at least in the southeast, that's not a unicorn, it's a fantasy.  You'd be hard pressed to get an F150 with those specs at that price.

[Nick1911]

It would be kinda scary knowing how much I have hauled at times.

I did a job once where I pulled an old hot water heating system, complete with cast iron radiators and installed forced air.

Had a decent pile of rubble in my pickup bed, but it wasn't heaping out or anything.  I was surprised and a little shocked when I drove on the scale at the metal scrapyard and my truck weighed in over 10k lbs.  Nothing bad happened, but it was not a smart thing to do.

It is, I've narrowed my next vehicle to a couple vehicles and a gas 4x4 F250 is one I am considering. How cow batman they are expensive used. I only drive about 5k a year on my personal vehicle so something with 50k on the clock would rust apart before I wore it out.

Yea, I was poking at the sub-10k market.  Which almost doesn't exist.  I only paid two grand for my 1999 several years ago, but the body is rough and it had an electrical gremlin.  Plus some damage to the steering column from when it had previously been stolen.  For 2k, I'm willing to deal with those problems.  Still looks rough, but that's fine - this is a work truck.  It doesn't have to be pretty, it has to work.  It's not a car - It only moves when it's moving something.

I will probably have to follow this route for the replacement - find something with a smoked engine or transmission that puts it at a price/effort point I'm willing to pay.

[charby]

There's obviously regional differences, but at least in the southeast, that's not a unicorn, it's a fantasy.  You'd be hard pressed to get an F150 with those specs at that price.

Pre-pandemic in Iowa, that wasn't that hard, 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 trucks weren't that popular as 1/2 ton, mostly due to the MPG hit and the physical size of them. Since used 1/2 ton 4x4 trucks are hard to find here without a crap ton of miles, people have gravitated to the heavy pickups. Used low mileage 1/2 ton trucks have been hard to find in the upper midwest for quite sometime up until last fall, due to a run of low commodity prices and farmers were hanging onto their trucks. Unless they hauled livestock, they have 1/2 ton trucks.

[charby]

I'm just going to wait until the over extended credit bubble pops and get one on the cheap.

[Nick1911]

I'm just going to wait until the over extended credit bubble pops and get one on the cheap.

I've thought that should an oil price shock occur, one silver lining would be affordable used full size pickups.

[French G.]

Ought to put a strain gage in the tailgate so you can track your progress pushing it back to the dealer. I had a 90 F150 when trucks were still trucks. Got 6500 lb of gravel no problem. Wife got gravel when I was deployed and when I got home I rebuilt the transmission.

[BobR]

I've thought that should an oil price shock occur, one silver lining would be affordable used full size pickups.

Probably not for a couple of years.

I went out looking for a decently priced used 1 ton recently. They don't exist. I am just going to bulletproof and maybe a few other things on my 08 F350 and call it good. I figure less than 8k into it and it should last until I quit driving rather than be tied to a payment for 6 or 7 years. I have just turned over 146K miles so it still has at least another 100K in it.

bob

[charby]

I've thought that should an oil price shock occur, one silver lining would be affordable used full size pickups.

Be like 2008/2009 all over again. I bought my current truck during that time for $12k, 2002 Nissan Frontier 4d 4x4 with 49,000 miles on it. Even with 140,000 miles, NADA shows retail at $6k for it.

[Ben]

Six months ago, with rebates and stuff, I could have put myself in a new F150 with the same specs as mine for around $4K over the trade in I could get for mine, except 4x instead of 2x. I was poking around last month, and didn't see any XLTs for under $44K. I haven't even checked since the "microchip shortage" hit.