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Will Bush's veto hold?
« on: March 30, 2007, 03:28:00 PM »
Assuming Bush does veto the Surrender and Run Away Act, is there any reason to think it will survive this? 
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 04:09:16 PM »
Regardless, it's just going to encourage the nutjobs to keep doing what they've been doing. Then in 2008, we leave. Then they get to kill the other half of their country. Or, more likely, they'll gang up on the kurds first, then go after each other later. Then, in the middle of it all, some nutjob is gonna smuggle a nuke into New York, Los Angeles, New Orleans, or another port city, and then we'll surrender.

Oui?
 
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 04:10:55 PM »
Passed on party lines in the Senate.  I don't think they have the votes to override.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 04:17:32 PM »
Let me see........Bush.........Veto.
Just doesn't work. Kinda like strawberries and poop.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 04:38:52 PM »
Has he not vetoed before?  Has he not very strongly committed himself to this veto, a veto on HIS issue? 
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 04:41:02 PM »
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Has he not vetoed before?

Once.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 05:52:51 PM »
Quote from: fistful on March 30, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
Assuming Bush does veto the Surrender and Run Away Act, is there any reason to think it will survive this? 

First time I've heard it called that, but I must say, it's an apt description.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 07:28:52 PM »
The reason congress voted a timeline is because it believes Bush will actually veto the bill.  It is called political theater.  It is how, in this case, democrats pay back their moonbat fringe.  A thoroughly disgusting display of craven cowardice but fairly consistent behavior.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 08:03:15 PM »
on a fringe....

a bunch of my friends (democrats and republicans) and I talked about it. Red Dawn was brought up.

add about 100,000 words....

Long story short, if it come down to it (terrorist invasion) we know what is going to happen and a we know what is to become (and how to react).

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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 08:05:37 PM »
Quote from: Waitone on March 30, 2007, 06:28:52 PM
The reason congress voted a timeline is because it believes Bush will actually veto the bill.  It is called political theater.  It is how, in this case, democrats pay back their moonbat fringe.  A thoroughly disgusting display of craven cowardice but fairly consistent behavior.

It took me a while, but I had already begun to suspect the same thing. 
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2007, 10:06:54 PM »
It is probably a done deal. Hillary already said on CSPAN that they need more Dem senators before they can stop the war. So, she knows Bush will veto and they need more votes to beat him, so she already blames him pre-emptively to pacify those who put the Dems in power in 2006.

Sadly, it seems for several years we will have a gov that is mentally incapable of standing up to savages and bullies. Maybe it is time for the veterans returning from Iraq in 2008 to start their own political party and clean house.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2007, 08:12:55 AM »
Quote from: fistful on March 30, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
Assuming Bush does veto the Surrender and Run Away Act, is there any reason to think it will survive this? 

The DhimmiCrats know they can't override the veto.  Thats why the will push the legislation.  They don't WANT to override it, they just want to make a statement.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2007, 10:30:59 AM »
Yep, political theater intended to play to the uber leftists.

Even with the defection of one of my Senators, Jose (I mean Chuck) Hagel it's a dead duck.  I intend to work/contribute against him in the next primary cycle, btw.  My first foray into political activism.

Watch how many nanoseconds it takes the Dems to get in front of the Klieg Lights and howl about partisian politics.  The ink from the veto won't even be dry.  I can just hear Harry Ried and Nancy now.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2007, 04:23:53 PM »
It doesn't matter because the message has already been sent.  The Dems have "done something" about the war.  Yeah, Bush will veto it.  Yeah there is no way they can override this, having had to ante up $2B in bribes to accomplish it.  So what?  At least they aren't doing anything substantive yet.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2007, 08:44:37 PM »
No, they cannot get the votes to override Bush's veto.

This is almost like a perverse flip-side of 1968. LBJ left office, and Nixon rode in, promising "peace with honor."

What "honor?"

Pelosi and Reid are playing the same tune. And, if they have their way, the results will be the same. The Mideast will be worse than when we went in, and our own credibility will be even more eroded than after VietNam.

What's even more unfortunate about all this is that today's events are more political in nature than what happened in 1968 to 1974. Yes, there was an anti-war movement in the late 1960's, but it was much more prominent than what we have now.

To anyone who can read a headline, it should be obvious that Pelosi and Reid are playing games with the war and our troops for partisan gains in the 2008 elections.

Since Pelosi and Reid are so concerned with the welfare of our troops, perhaps they could have the DNC send free bodybags to Iraq, with "Hillary 2008" stamped on them.

If we're going to lose because of politics, let's put the blame where it lies.
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Re: Will Bush's veto hold?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2007, 04:12:08 PM »
The DEMS would crap their pants if Bush didn't veto it. The troops would come home, the middle east would go to hell in a hand basket, gas prices would hit $5/gallon and the repugnicans could blame it all on the demonrats.

1994 all over again.

The dems are counting on Bush vetoing their stupidity.
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