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Desertdog

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Will it be cold or hot?
« on: April 07, 2007, 07:45:16 AM »
And some people think there is no reason to be skeptical about "Global Warming" and it's disasterous effects.

The first story is happening now, but somebody says the second one will happen.  So, is it going to be cold, hot or normal.

Easter Bunny Bundles Up
Unusually Cold Just About Everywhere In U.S. East Of The Rockies
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/06/national/main2655181.shtml


Climate Report Warns of Faster and Wider Damage
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-globalwarming.html?ei=5065&en=5920312e6e749e22&ex=1176523200&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print

Personally, I believe there will be wider damage from the actions of governments than from the weather changes.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 07:13:55 AM »
Yesterday at Casa Mountainclmbr it was 15F and snow. Where is my global warming?
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 08:05:37 AM »
I think they really blew it by calling it "global warming". It's not that simple, and is a misnomer. "Climate change" is more correct. Stuff IS changing, any scientific data will back that up. Core samples, all sorts of irrefutable evidence.

In New England, it was shirtsleeve weather at Christmas and well into January, but now it's April and snowing. It seemed like winter got bumped a few months. That's "change", not necessarily "warming".

So many things affect the weather. If warmer water shut down the North Atlantic Conveyor, which is possible, Europe would get much colder without the warm water brought up from the equatorial region.

Is a cycle? We don't know. Is it our fault? We don't know. Are things changing in a manner we really haven't seen before? Yes. Can it affect our coastal cities, our civilizations and way of life? Yes. We're tiny, the planet is big.

That's what I think the focus should be on, and the US is sadly lacking there. Tokyo has cathedral-sized underground viaducts with 737-engine powered pumps that can swallow an entire tsunami and keep it from hitting the city. London has the huge Thames Flood Barrier gates with their silver shields. Holland has massive computer-controlled lift gates.

The US has...some dirt mounds.

That's kinda sad. That should be our focus now, I think.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 09:34:13 AM »
The short answer is yes.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 10:22:38 AM »
Since 1998 it was been getting colder.  We must do something to warm the earth!  Global Warming Now, for the children!

I do not care if our coastal cities are destroyed.  I will receive my freedom and my tax money back without L.A. and New York City!  Hoozah, let them all die!  Not one penny for their protection.

It's bitter cold here, I hope this is a big hot cup of STFU to the sandal-wearing blissninnies out East.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2007, 10:31:17 AM »
Lawdog put it best:


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It's the seventh of April -- in North by-Gawd Texas -- and it was 30 bloody degrees Fahrenheit on the porch thermometer when I staggered out of bed this morning.
 


ALGORE must have passed through here as well, it feels like january.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2007, 11:57:34 AM »
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Are things changing in a manner we really haven't seen before? Yes.
The weather has changed constantly since earth was formed.  About last week the East Coast and central states were basking in spring weather, today it is winter again. 

Yep, we hadn't seen it happen before.  That does not mean it hasn't happened before, just that we hadn't seen it happen before.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 11:59:00 AM »
The climate is always changing. We are in between ice ages now. An interglacial warming period. There have been times in the past that have been warmer and times that have been cooler. The item in question is what the human contribution may be. It seems to me that this is mainly a cure (socialism) in search of a problem.
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 01:47:52 PM »
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It seems to me that this is mainly a cure (socialism) in search of a problem.
My opinon also.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2007, 01:58:11 PM »
The climate is always changing. We are in between ice ages now. An interglacial warming period. There have been times in the past that have been warmer and times that have been cooler. The item in question is what the human contribution may be. It seems to me that this is mainly a cure (socialism) in search of a problem.

Agreed.
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2007, 03:49:46 PM »
It will continue getting warmer until it starts cooling off.  Increasing darkness this evening, becoming lighter by morning.  Chili tonite and hot tamale Tongue

I believe space shuttle flights and satellite launches are causing solar (and global) warming.  Otherwise, why are Mars and Jupiter getting warmer?  Not to mention all the gravity that is being used up - one space shuttle launch uses more gravity than the everyone on earth used during the entire 19th century.  The USA, with only 6% of the world's population, uses up 80% of the earth's gravity.  Now that is a serious situation  shocked
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2007, 04:26:24 AM »
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I think they really blew it by calling it "global warming". It's not that simple, and is a misnomer. "Climate change" is more correct.


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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2007, 05:28:51 AM »
Well, there are those too young to remember, and those with short-term memory problems...

This weather pattern of a mild time in March and colder'n'ell around Easter happened in 1980.  But it was the weekend after Easter, that year.  I left Austin on a Friday, to work corners at a sports car race at TWS at Bryan.  Very mild to warm.  I had a change of undies and an extra short-sleeved shirt.

The norther hit that night.  Saturday was 38 degrees with rain and a 20+ mph wind.

Bummer.

May is commonly nice and mild and lotsa flowers in CenTex in the spring.  Then came 1981.  We had serious floods in Austin from a 10" rain in a couple of hours.  AND THEN the "Marfa High", a stationary high pressure center over west Texas, set in.  LawDog's ItchyPaw Falls got to 117, as did a lot of the rest of the state; somewhere around 107 or 108 in Austin, IIRC.

The Marfa High commonly occurs in late August or early September, and is an infrequent event.

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2007, 02:07:25 PM »
Yesterday it was cold and snowing. Today it is hot and most snow has melted. If I extrapolate that warming trend I can make things seem much worse than Al Gore makes it seem. I should make a movie!
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2007, 05:38:03 PM »
Oh no. Tomorrow will be much colder. Could mess up my temperature extrapolation. I hope you will excuse me if I throw out that data point.
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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2007, 04:20:06 PM »
I think Al Gore is hoping for global warming because Tipper is so frigid...

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2007, 07:37:01 PM »
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I think they really blew it by calling it "global warming". It's not that simple, and is a misnomer. "Climate change" is more correct. Stuff IS changing, any scientific data will back that up. Core samples, all sorts of irrefutable evidence.

Yup, lots of change.  I like to call that WEATHER

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Re: Will it be cold or hot?
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2007, 06:33:12 AM »
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