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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2023, 01:21:53 PM »
Reparations were paid in full at Shiloh, Antietam, Gettysburg and a thousand other places.

If that's true, why the promise of 40 acres and a mule? Men gave their lives, and that should be appreciated, but even right after the war, it was still understood that those sacrifices couldn't actually repay the slaves for years, or generations, of mistreatment and stolen labor.

Of course, we can't do it now, either, since those generations are long gone.

In any case, can people please quit trotting out that flippant answer about the dead soldiers? Please? That's not reparations.
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2023, 02:15:34 PM »
Not to mention the over fixation on the institution of slavery while disregarding other institutions that enslave in other ways. Abolitionists failed to check the marginal analysis... slavery was horrible, but little was done to consider what would replace slavery and whether or how much the lot of the enslaved would improve. And that's because for many abolitionists, the enslaved weren't actually their main concern. Their concern was wages and the influence thereon by the existence of slavery.
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2023, 08:23:36 PM »
Slavery was unfortunately legal in the early USA and the CSA.  No repartitions are owed for that reason.

I do remember something interesting local.  My family toured a very old plantation home (1820's era I think- not a mansion, just a medium small house) some years ago.  It was still in the original family, and we met the current owner... and a black man who was a descendant of some of the slaves from the plantation.  The owner mentioned that when the slaves were freed after the war, their former master gave them a plot of land... where many of their descendants still live. I guess that was repartitions of a sort.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2023, 10:49:17 AM »
Prepare for probably the dumbest thing you will read all month if not all year.


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    You do understand that reparations would come from the government and not your wallet, right?
    — Salem Snow (@Salem4Congress) August 19, 2023

Yeah, and this person is running for congress


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Bro, WHAT?! Social worker running for PA Congress tweets DUMBEST thing maybe EVER about gov. spending
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/08/21/salem-snow-reparations-n2386452
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2023, 11:27:30 AM »
Ah.... an Bernie Sanders acolyte...
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2023, 12:18:26 PM »
I imagine this illustrates the reason why this guy is being supported to run for office.  The lobbyists and such don't want someone smart or capable critical of thinking in office. 
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2023, 12:28:33 PM »
Prepare for probably the dumbest thing you will read all month if not all year.


You ready?


Here it comes


You sure?


Okay here it  is


Yeah, and this person is running for congress


Got that? IT'S FREE!


Bro, WHAT?! Social worker running for PA Congress tweets DUMBEST thing maybe EVER about gov. spending
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/08/21/salem-snow-reparations-n2386452

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2023, 07:21:34 PM »
And along comes NY
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New York Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul is facing backlash from Republicans in the state over her decision to establish a commission to explore paying reparations to descendants of slaves.

Hochul signed a bill Tuesday for a "community commission to study the history of slavery in New York state" to examine "various forms of reparations."

New York governor's reparations commission slammed as divisive: 'Slap in the face'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-governors-reparations-commission-slammed-divisive-slap-in-face
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2023, 12:14:11 PM »
Several of my ancestors were murdered for being Union loyalists.

Some of my ancestors fought for the CSA.

I guess I should pay repartitions to myself.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2024, 06:20:46 PM »
This sound like extortion to you?

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    NEW: Socialist Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is calling for reparations funding for black Chicagoans to reduce violent crime.

    Johnson may be the dumbest mayor in American history.

    During an interview with CNN, Johnson said that city funds must be diverted to reparation programs… pic.twitter.com/SMdTUYJ8Ea
    — Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 30, 2023
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/01/01/chicago-reparations-crime-n2391246
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2024, 12:26:43 AM »
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2024, 07:13:25 AM »
Several of my ancestors were murdered for being Union loyalists.

Some of my ancestors fought for the CSA.

I guess I should pay repartitions to myself.


The Romans spend nearly 400 years repressing and enslaving my English and Welsh ancestors.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2024, 01:01:29 PM »
Levar Burton just found out that he has a confederate soldier for an ancestor.

Scott Adams: "How much does he owe himself in reparations?"

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2024, 09:13:58 PM »
So in my simple mind I wonder...
IF the enslaved ancestors had instead been left happily free and living in mud huts scratching out a few peas and dried fish, would their modern descendants be living better now? I'm not suggesting slavery is in any way moral or acceptable, but could the current reparations activists have actually benefitted from the plight of their ancestors?

Of course they would. Their mud huts would all have television and Internet, and they'd all have smartphones.
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2024, 09:12:22 AM »
So in my simple mind I wonder...
IF the enslaved ancestors had instead been left happily free and living in mud huts scratching out a few peas and dried fish, would their modern descendants be living better now? I'm not suggesting slavery is in any way moral or acceptable, but could the current reparations activists have actually benefitted from the plight of their ancestors?
Just compare the standard of living Black people in the USA right now with the standard of living of Black people in places like Chad, Somalia, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo, Gabon, etc., today, and you'll have your answer.

And follow migration patterns, comparing the movement of people from Africa to the USA with emigration from the USA to Africa. Even the most vocal critics of our supposed "systemic racism" are unwilling to move elsewhere. People vote with their feet . . .
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2024, 09:52:45 AM »

The Romans spend nearly 400 years repressing and enslaving my English and Welsh ancestors.

ITALY NEEDS TO MAKE ME WHOLE!

My family history is well established to Scotland,  Ireland and England and one sliver of Huguenot franchise. (Not where my name derives) But my DNA comes back with German presumably from the Huguenot bunch, and Norse. So were my people oppressed,  oppressing, so confusing.  Better ask for money just to be sure.
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2024, 04:53:51 PM »
 "NEW: Socialist Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is calling for reparations funding for black Chicagoans to reduce violent crime.

    Johnson may be the dumbest mayor in American history."

Dumb mayor, indeed. Simply handing large amounts of money to a population with generational habits of violence and low impulse control would make things worse for most of them. Give each person a million dollars and half or more of it will end up in the hands of casinos. Most of the rest will be spent on cars and homes that the buyers won't be able to afford to maintain once their lump sum is blown.  I'd wager that within a few years, most will have lost everything, and some would be dead who wouldn't have been otherwise, either from being able to afford more drugs, or being shot in a robbery for their expensive car / clothing / jewelry.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2024, 08:19:10 PM »
"NEW: Socialist Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is calling for reparations funding for black Chicagoans to reduce violent crime.

    Johnson may be the dumbest mayor in American history."

Dumb mayor, indeed. Simply handing large amounts of money to a population with generational habits of violence and low impulse control would make things worse for most of them. Give each person a million dollars and half or more of it will end up in the hands of casinos. Most of the rest will be spent on cars and homes that the buyers won't be able to afford to maintain once their lump sum is blown.  I'd wager that within a few years, most will have lost everything, and some would be dead who wouldn't have been otherwise, either from being able to afford more drugs, or being shot in a robbery for their expensive car / clothing / jewelry.

Plus, once they see that they can just demand money and get it -- they'll demand more, and then more, and then more again. It will turn into the world's largest protection racket, with the city as the protectee.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2024, 09:32:58 PM »
"NEW: Socialist Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is calling for reparations funding for black Chicagoans to reduce violent crime.
Since the mayor himself is a black Chicagoan, doesn't that mean HE will be in on a piece of the action?
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2024, 12:06:32 AM »
Just compare the standard of living Black people in the USA right now with the standard of living of Black people in places like Chad, Somalia, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo, Gabon, etc., today, and you'll have your answer.

And follow migration patterns, comparing the movement of people from Africa to the USA with emigration from the USA to Africa. Even the most vocal critics of our supposed "systemic racism" are unwilling to move elsewhere. People vote with their feet . . .

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2024, 07:39:23 AM »
Remember friends reparations is not about putting money into the hands of normal people but to provide a rich endless stream of unaccounted for money into the politicians pockets.

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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2024, 07:52:37 AM »
Remember friends reparations is not about putting money into the hands of normal people but to provide a rich endless stream of unaccounted for money into the politicians pockets.

That, plus it's a "politically correct" way of paying people for their votes. In another word: bribery.
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2024, 10:46:45 AM »
I wonder about something...

Say various entities DO start handing out huge amounts of money to individuals as, say, San Francisco/California has promised to do.

One would have to believe that anyone eligible for those payment would get them, no strings attached (also something that has been promised), including hard-core drug addicts...

Which would likely cause a spike in overdose deaths...

At what point will some start claiming that reparations from whitey was just a cynical scheme to kill off POCs?
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Re: Reparations now!
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2024, 10:56:19 AM »
I wonder about something...

Say various entities DO start handing out huge amounts of money to individuals as, say, San Francisco/California has promised to do.

One would have to believe that anyone eligible for those payment would get them, no strings attached (also something that has been promised), including hard-core drug addicts...

Which would likely cause a spike in overdose deaths...

At what point will some start claiming that reparations from whitey was just a cynical scheme to kill off POCs?

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