Author Topic: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?  (Read 3092 times)

AZRedhawk44

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Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« on: August 30, 2023, 01:20:31 PM »
Let's say a conservative/libertarian candidate wins some election for POTUS in the future.

He has the ability to appoint directors of agencies such at the IRS, ATF, and FBI.  But can he appoint counsels to audit law enforcement agent arrest histories and do a forensic analysis of what would effectively be paperwork violations versus violent crimes, and purge paper chasers and/or promote agents that have the highest arrest ratios of violent criminals?

Is there some sort of LEO union/lobby that would get in the way of such a thing?

Mostly I'm thinking of the ATF in regards to this, with agents that mostly subsist on entrapment cases and chasing down AR pistol brace buyers and the like.  IRS would mostly be paper chasing and hard to de-weaponize as a political tool... but FBI needs a house cleaning about as bad as the ATF.  Promoting FBI agents that have strong records of chasing interstate kidnappers and dismantling real terrorist cells (not retards they have to entrap and spoonfeed the entire way) would go a long ways to fixing that agency.
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Re: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2023, 02:00:47 PM »
The first challenge is finding someone who is willing to take the job and upset the status quo in those agencies, who is willing to fire a whole bunch of the existing leadership and get all the standing policies changed.  The equivalent of putting Ted Nugent in charge of the BATFE.  That assumes the Senate won't stonewall appointments of people who would do that.

It isn't a glamorous job.  Anything that goes wrong in the next few years after, everyone will be pointing the finger at that guy and how him stirring things up caused the problem.  I am thinking of the FBI/CIA, but any agency would be the same.
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Re: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2023, 03:57:58 PM »
. . .   That assumes the Senate won't stonewall appointments of people who would do that . . .
Bad actors in positions of power are worse than unfilled vacancies.
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Re: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2023, 05:25:52 PM »
Bad actors in positions of power are worse than unfilled vacancies.
I agree on that.  That is why I sort of wish people would stop worrying about putting people in prison and just focusing on getting them out of office. 
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Re: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2023, 09:18:22 PM »
IRS would mostly be paper chasing and hard to de-weaponize as a political tool...

Easy solution (conceptually anyway).  Repeal the 16th and abolish the irs (or gut it to the point it can’t terrorize the people - if all it has to do is enforce a sales tax it can be cut by 95% in size and scope). 
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Re: Pie in the Sky Idea - Federal Agent Audit of Arrest Records?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2023, 10:08:34 PM »
Why do you suppose that the outcome would be any different than what happened to 'drain the swamp' Trump?