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If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« on: September 13, 2023, 08:12:08 PM »
I was unaware of this when it happened.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-admits-faking-car-trouble-killing-florida-college-student-stopped-help-her

Synopsis: A Good Samaritan couple are lured to a disabled car by a woman. While they are attempting to jump start her car, she pulls a gun to rob them. Apparently the man had a CCW, which he pulled, and I guess attempting to be a good guy, told her to drop her gun. Instead, a gunfight ensued in which she was shot four times and he was shot once. He's the one who died.

Another case of "shoot them until they're done moving". Or, "When you have to shoot, shoot! Don't talk!"
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2023, 11:20:58 PM »
"...she pulls a gun to rob them..."

Immediate threat to life or severe bodily injury.  Not a movie script, do not negotiate.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2023, 12:34:53 AM »
"...she pulls a gun to rob them..."

Immediate threat to life or severe bodily injury.  Not a movie script, do not negotiate.

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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2023, 06:53:21 AM »
And it's for things like this that I support the death penalty.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2023, 07:28:05 AM »
. . . Apparently the man had a CCW, which he pulled, and I guess attempting to be a good guy, told her to drop her gun. . . .
On TV shows the good guy frequently talks the bad guy into surrendering . . . and if the bad guy DOES shoot, he'll usually miss.

REAL LIFE ISN"T A TV SHOW!! 

Emulating TV show tactics is almost invariably a prescription for failure. The guy needed to begin shooting the instant his gun lined up with the armed robber.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2023, 08:57:07 AM »
On TV shows the good guy frequently talks the bad guy into surrendering . . . and if the bad guy DOES shoot, he'll usually miss.

REAL LIFE ISN"T A TV SHOW!! 

Emulating TV show tactics is almost invariably a prescription for failure. The guy needed to begin shooting the instant his gun lined up with the armed robber.

Yes, exactly as I said above.  And she can't claim she didn't know her gun was loaded after her first shot.  I'm against the death penalty for technical reasons, but I can sure appreciate this sentiment:

And it's for things like this that I support the death penalty.

...for both her and her accomplice.

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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2023, 11:18:03 AM »
"Plea deal" BS for 30 years?  She will be out in 15 or so.

That's straight up capital murder.  She should die.

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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2023, 11:19:37 AM »
"Plea deal" BS for 30 years?  She will be out in 15 or so.


Not if she knows someone who was in DC on the day democracy almost died.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2023, 11:51:22 AM »
"Plea deal" BS for 30 years?  She will be out in 15 or so.

That's straight up capital murder.  She should die.

To me, it's especially egregious because she lured two people trying to do good into a trap. From the story, they targeted a female senior citizen the day before, who got scared and left. People suck, man.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2023, 06:45:43 PM »
To me, it's especially egregious because she lured two people trying to do good into a trap. From the story, they targeted a female senior citizen the day before, who got scared and left. People suck, man.

And this is why I no longer pick up hitch hikers or stop to assist [apparently] disabled motorists.
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2023, 08:48:27 AM »
A highly publicized hard life sentence, no parole, no "good behavior," no prison yard conversion to religion, no "I'm sorries," no nuthin'.

For both.

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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 01:07:46 AM »
I do not recall if I shared here.
 crazy drunk girl pointed a loaded .22 North American mini at me, iirc a "black widow" revolver .
I was driving a cab/she was passenger in front seat.
I ended up taking it from her, even tho I had a sp101 on my left side /open carry/ for in car emergency and a Glock 22 ccw on my right to point out window for out the window emergency.
I could have shot her, easily and legally .... I just couldn't tho because I've been a drunk 20 something way to many times.
Also, I knew the na .22 was single action and she didn't have the hammer back ....

it is too bad he died, in my case it was a drunk girl doing a stupid thing on impulse - in his case it was a set up for strong arm robbery.
I think if my ccw was set up correctly - I would shoot/prevail/
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2023, 09:24:14 AM »
...I ended up taking it from her...

Didja at least get to keep it?
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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2023, 11:00:01 AM »
Didja at least get to keep it?

I know a woman who took away a handgun from an armed robber at a gas station holdup "attempt."  I've always wanted to ask her if she got to keep the gun.   :lol:

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Re: If You Get Your Gun Out, Just Shoot
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2023, 02:13:37 PM »
Didja at least get to keep it?

Now I wish I had, but I was a bit nervous so I reported the whole thing to the police and they kept it.
 They arrested her but I got a burr under my saddle and refused to testify.  I guess they let her go.
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