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Curse you Windows 11 update
« on: October 02, 2023, 12:32:07 PM »
I am on day three of trying to rebuild my Dell desktop after the latest Windows 11 update.  After doing a system restore, running various repair tools, backing up from an external hard drive and endless research, things seem to be improving.  Rather than freezing up every hour or so, requiring a hard power off to reset, it is now down to a freeze once a day or so.  The majority of opinion on the Net seems to be an incompatibility with the latest update with Nvidia cards/drivers, and the Intel Killer ethernet driver suite.  I have finally been able to uninstall Killer and the associated services, and apparently you have to activate an experimental feature on the video drivers to reduce the problem.  Looking for driver conflicts, the event viewer and the reliability monitor has been less than helpful.  I hope things improve.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2023, 12:39:17 PM »
Which Nvidia card doe you have?
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2023, 12:50:25 PM »
Nvidia RTX 3070 and here is the rest of the setup:


Operating System
Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (build 22621.2361)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)
Installed: 9/28/2023 6:38:22 AM
Servicing Branch: Current Branch (CB)
Boot Mode: UEFI with successful Secure Boot
System Model
Dell Inc. XPS 8940
System Service Tag: 6FDFNF3 (support for this PC)
Chassis Serial Number: 6FDFNF3
Manufactured: 7/14/2021 (first used on 9/8/2021)
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a
2.50 gigahertz Intel 11th Gen Core i7-11700
640 kilobyte primary memory cache
4 megabyte secondary memory cache
16 megabyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (8 total)
Hyper-threaded (16 total)
Main Circuit Board b
Board: Dell Inc. 0K3CM7 A00
Serial Number: /6FDFNF3/MXFC600155000O/
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
UEFI: Dell Inc. 2.14.0 08/08/2023
Local Storage (mouse over drive name for details)
8.00 Terabytes Usable Local Storage Capacity
5.71 Terabytes Local Storage Free Space

Internal Drives   Size   Type   Serial Number   Drive#   Status*
    NVMe Micron 2300 NVMe 1024GB   1.02 TB      21112D9291FC   1   Healthy
    Seagate One Touch HDD SCSI Disk Device   5.00 TB      00000000NABN7BKZ   2   
    ST2000DM008-2FR102   2.00 TB      ZFL4LAR2   0   Healthy
Other Drives
    ATA PLDS DVD+/-RW DU-8A5LH [Optical drive]   

* Status reported only for SMART enabled drives
Memory c,d
63.58 Gigabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM1' has 16 GB (serial number 01C2D48C)
Slot 'DIMM2' has 16 GB (serial number 01C2D4DD)
Slot 'DIMM3' has 16 GB (serial number 01C2D653)
Slot 'DIMM4' has 16 GB (serial number 01C2D41A)

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 750 [Display adapter]
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 [Display adapter]
AUS VG27A [Monitor] (27.2"vis, s/n N2LMQS108243, February 2022)
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2023, 12:55:31 PM »
Have you gone to Nvida's website and manually downloaded the latest driver from there? Often Windows update will be a few versions behind.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2023, 01:18:50 PM »
I have, and it is confirmed to be the latest driver.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2023, 02:09:37 PM »
Everything set to default clocking?

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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2023, 02:46:46 PM »
Yes, and according to the hardware monitor, all the fans are running and temps are normal. The computer hardware and settings have been unchanged and problem free for a couple of years. The only thing that has changed is the software.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2023, 02:51:29 PM »
Have you tried uninstalling the driver and reinstalling an older ver?
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2023, 03:38:56 PM »
Is your on-board video disabled in the BIOS?  I would assume it is, but it's worth double-checking.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2023, 03:53:33 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on October 02, 2023, 02:51:29 PM
Have you tried uninstalling the driver and reinstalling an older ver?

I have not, but that is a heck of an idea.  I just downloaded and installed a RTX 3070 driver from back in June.  Everything was running well then.  I will report back.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2023, 01:35:48 PM »
So since I took WLJ's suggestion and downloaded an older version of the Nvidia driver, no more crashes.  I am cautiously optimistic.  It turns out that the latest Windows 11 update (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/september-26-2023-windows-configuration-update-542780c2-594c-46cb-979d-11116fe164ba) cannot be rolled back.

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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2023, 08:10:55 AM »
Hmm
Had an odd video glitch and guess what, Nvidia video card, GTX 1060.
System didn't crash but video glitched for a moment.
So maybe the latest W11 update mucked something up in the driver or Nvidia did, or both. Nvidia is notorious for putting out glitchly drivers.
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Re: Curse you Windows 11 update
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2023, 04:10:04 PM »
Our 15+ year old TV died to day. I blame Windows 11
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