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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2024, 11:40:07 PM »
I'm seeing somewhat conflicting manifestos being posted and even conflicting photos where some are the same one edited different ways. Not sure what to believe right now. Wish people wouldn't do this crap.

It would be infinitely better if the murder-suicide folks reversed the order of operations.
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2024, 06:54:06 AM »
It would be infinitely better if the murder-suicide folks reversed the order of operations.

Yep
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2024, 06:55:13 AM »
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2024, 08:46:20 AM »
And of course we got calls to ban "assault" weapons
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2024, 08:51:50 AM »
I'd rather ban feminists.

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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2024, 08:55:36 AM »
And of course we got calls to ban "assault" weapons

Has there been anything reliable on what she used?
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2024, 09:00:26 AM »
Has there been anything reliable on what she used?

Reports I've seen all say it was a 9mm handgun
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2024, 11:09:59 AM »
And of course we got calls to ban "assault" weapons
Which is their only "solution" and won't accomplish anything.
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2024, 05:22:41 PM »
Apparently a TDM writer finds it disturbing they teache creationism instead of evolution at a Christian school

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Disturbing lessons Natalie Rupnow was taught at Wisconsin Christian school

The Wisconsin high school where Natalie Rupnow killed at least two people and wounded six others boasts of its devotion to Christian values - including not believing in evolution.

The $10,000-a-year Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin, was sent into lockdown Monday after Rupnow opened fire before she turned the gun on herself, leaving a horrific scene at the campus.

Grim lessons Natalie Rupnow learned at Wisconsin Christian school
Abundant Life Christian School in Wisconsin teaches students creationism instead of evolution.
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2024, 05:35:09 PM »
Apparently a TDM writer finds it disturbing they teaches creationism instead of evolution at a Christian school

Um, what were they teaching at Sandy Hook? Or Columbine? Virginia Tech?
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2024, 11:19:08 PM »
And we have a plot twist as this appears to have gotten bigger as someone in CA may have been involved.

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The teenage girl who killed a teacher and fellow student at her Wisconsin school this week was in contact with a California man who was planning his own mass shooting, according to California court records.

News of the connection between 15-year-old Natalie "Samantha" Rupnow and the Carlsbad, California, man surfaced while authorities worked to determine exactly what motivated her to stage Monday's attack at the Abundant Life Christian School in Madison.
Wisconsin shooter linked to California man planning separate attack
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-14211279/Wisconsin-shooter-contact-California-man-planning-separate-attack-reports-say.html

More in another article

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The California man accused of plotting a coordinated attack with Wisconsin school shooter Natalie Rupnow has been pictured for the first time.

Alexander Paffendorf, 20, of Carlsbad, was detained by FBI agents on suspicion of 'plotting' to coordinate a mass shooting at an undisclosed government building.

Paffendorf admitted to agents that he had been messaging 15-year-old Rupnow about attacking a government building with a gun and explosives, according to court documents made public Wednesday.
Natalie Rupnow's accomplice Alexander Paffendorf, 20, unmasked... as police reveal how he 'helped her plot Wisconsin shooting'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14209201/natalie-samantha-rupnow-accomplice-alexander-paffendorf.html
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2024, 11:22:21 PM »
And it appears she had two guns. It was previously reported she had a 9mm handgun but whether or not both were 9mm I haven't seen yet.

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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2024, 01:43:15 AM »
Where did you find a link suggesting Sandy Hook phone girl was at the Madison shooting?

Who is/was "Sandy Hook phone girl"? The post-Sandy Hook hysteria radically curtailed my 2A rights. I thought I had read about everything there was to read on the incident, and I don't recall anything about a "phone girl."
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2024, 01:51:32 AM »
Regardless of Creationism/evolution, this school failed dramatically at teaching Biology if Natalie thought she could wipe out all males and that women could then "start over."
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2024, 09:12:17 AM »
Yeah, no kidding.   ;/

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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2024, 10:43:04 AM »
Who is/was "Sandy Hook phone girl"? The post-Sandy Hook hysteria radically curtailed my 2A rights. I thought I had read about everything there was to read on the incident, and I don't recall anything about a "phone girl."



Supposedly she's been seen at multiple public mass shooting sites, and is evidence of something called "crisis actors."  People that DHS use to simulate mass casualty events. 

Another one that is often viewed with skepticism is Robbie Parker, father of a daughter killed at Sandy Hook.  There's video of him laughing and joking seconds before an interview/speech goes live and he immediately shifts to grieving father in a handful of seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZfxxPc0r0

There is evidence that DHS does hire people for various drills.  More extreme conspiracists see this as practice for events that never actually happen, that many of these mass shootings are manufactured and no one actually dies. 
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2024, 11:04:54 AM »


Supposedly she's been seen at multiple public mass shooting sites, and is evidence of something called "crisis actors."  People that DHS use to simulate mass casualty events. 

Another one that is often viewed with skepticism is Robbie Parker, father of a daughter killed at Sandy Hook.  There's video of him laughing and joking seconds before an interview/speech goes live and he immediately shifts to grieving father in a handful of seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZfxxPc0r0

There is evidence that DHS does hire people for various drills.  More extreme conspiracists see this as practice for events that never actually happen, that many of these mass shootings are manufactured and no one actually dies. 

Far too many people would have to be involved to keep that a secret for this long.
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2024, 11:08:06 AM »
Far too many people would have to be involved to keep that a secret for this long.

Even for 5 minutes
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Re: Another shooting at a Christian school
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2024, 07:19:08 PM »


But they didn't keep it a secret. Alex Jones figured it out a long time ago.  [tinfoil]
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