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bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« on: January 22, 2025, 04:40:55 PM »
  I've always been lousy at all things financial. paycheck to paycheck lifestyle.
I had a secure credit card around 20 yrs ago, but me and Wells Fargo got divorced after 20 yrs and after a rough 10 or more yrs didn't even have a bank account.
   So, like, 2 yrs ago I think, I got a chase bank account and didn't over draft.
Last yr they offered me a credit card and I used it like it was a debit card/paying the whole thing off every month.
  I went from no credit score to 750 as of last month, next month I get some kind of better card too, according to my app.
 I still am paycheck to paycheck, having a hard time saving. Working full time and will be 65 yrs old soon.
 Born in 1960, means I can work full time and collect  social security after 66 1/2  ( I think )
 I think I will be healthy enough to keep on working/hoping I can.
AFAIK I only have a little arthritis and use glasses, going to get a check up in March, first one in 25 yrs.
 So, what do I actually do with a good credit score?
I got, like a 2000 dollar limit.
I "want" things, but realistically, I can't afford payments right now for things I need like a very used car or motorcycle.
I live 40 minutes away from work in a semi rural area that I like but my car is on it's last legs.( wheels?)
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2025, 04:46:28 PM »
If that "better card" is a cash back rewards card, buy everything with it and pay it off right away. It all adds up! Beyond that, keep building your credit history and you can apply for a used car loan for a not-too-horrific interest rate.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2025, 04:53:26 PM »
If that "better card" is a cash back rewards card, buy everything with it and pay it off right away. It all adds up! Beyond that, keep building your credit history and you can apply for a used car loan for a not-too-horrific interest rate.

it's a 1.5 percent cash back
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2025, 04:54:47 PM »
If you have regular bills that will accept credit cards as payment - things like utilities and insurance - set them up through the card and pay it off every month. You're spending the same amount of money, but building credit and getting points/cash back at the same time. It also allows you one payment a month rather than multiple, and adds a layer of protection between your online accounts and your bank account.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2025, 04:57:18 PM »
Look for a better credit card to use while applying the same "pay it in full every month" discipline.

Discover is a pretty good one for that.  I have a Discover card that I pay in full every month, and I get 5% rebate on gas, food and other things.

Other than the card benefits, there's not a lot that good credit will get you without a corresponding high income.  Good credit just lets you potentially get yourself into deep financial trouble.  Might make it a little easier to find an apartment or get into a home, I guess.

You absolutely don't want to put a vehicle on plastic.  Apply for an auto loan with the bank that gave you the first card (and don't get a second card beforehand!) if a car is high on the priority list.

Honestly if you're a 40 minute drive from work, that's 2-3 gallons each way you're spending to get there each morning, and 2-3 gallons to get back home.  Five gallons a day, 25 gallons a week, 100 gallons a month... about $300ish dollars.  Not to mention the wear and tear on the vehicle, tires, oil changes, and reliability issues of a vehicle on its last legs.  If you can find comparable shelter closer in to work you'll be up to $300 a month further ahead.  Maybe more, depends on when your car decides to crap the bed and strand you without a paycheck for that day/week/whatever.

In the financial state you're in, I'd really suggest either moving close enough to work to walk or bike or use public transit in case your car is a problem... or find a job close enough to your current home that gives comparable income that you have the ability to walk or bike to in case of car trouble.  Start saving all that gas and vehicle wear money on a down payment to go with your trade-in, and get into a decent used car.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2025, 05:12:27 PM »
the problem with living close to work is living in close proximity to junkies/prostitutes/homeless/riff raff.
 I can't afford the good places close to work and end up getting into confrontations with noisy creeps not letting me sleep.
I have to be at work at 05:00 and get up at 03:00 currently to do that.  After getting awakened at midnight a few times I tend to lose my temper so I stay semi rural
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2025, 05:31:43 PM »
Having the credit score opens more possibilities for card companies. You can look for better terms.
If paying regular bills by card make sure there are no extra charges to cover card fees.
Or use your improved credit to open an account (card linked to checking and/or savings) with a credit union or one of the few mutual institutions remaining so that when you are ready for a vehicle loan you already have a relationship with them.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2025, 06:05:46 PM »
I'd 2nd the discover card if they are still offering the 5% rebates on certain things like gas and food etc for new accounts.  I use mine like cash and pay it weekly through my bank checking electronic bill pay along with all my other regular bills.  See if you have a credit union/bank nearby that offers free electronic bill pay on a checking account and auto deposit your pay into that account and use their bill pay service. 
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2025, 10:55:36 PM »
 Just wanted to stop by and say CONGRATULATIONS! 

I have nothing to add to the suggestions you've already gotten.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2025, 11:54:34 PM »
Congratulations. 

You can get a benefit from using the card, just know yourself and make sure you do actually keep it paid off.  I know for myself, if I have money in my pocket, the temptation to spend it is up there.    However, if you can stick with it, the card at least allows you to absorb emergency expenses if needed as you work to get ahead in other ways. 
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2025, 06:59:24 AM »
Investigate whether you can join any credit unions in your area. Either through work, through some sort group affiliation, through the area where you live, etc.

Often credit unions have services, loans, and credit cards that have substantially better rates and fees associated with them than straight up banks. Although as far as banks go, Chase Bank isn't terrible.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2025, 07:09:51 AM »
Better credit is not more income, so I wouldn't recommend you do much with your new credit score.  A credit card with some cushion for emergencies?  Fine.  If you're going to use that credit card for regular expenses?  Fine, just be careful that your regular expenses don't creep up because of the illusion of wealth that credit gives you.  Maybe see if you can get a better rate on your car insurance, though.

As far as seeking loans or buying more stuff?  Not if you can at all avoid it.

As far as Mike's recommendation for credit unions, do some comparison shopping before joining.  I have accounts at a credit union, and I haven't found them to be the best deal for anything.  I've looked at them for home loans, vehicle loans, credit cards, and money market accounts, and none of them competed with other sources for those products.  I'm sure some credit unions are better than others, but I haven't been blown away by anything about mine.  If a friend's wife didn't work for them, I wouldn't bother keeping deposit and checking accounts with them.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2025, 07:30:50 AM »
"As far as Mike's recommendation for credit unions, do some comparison shopping before joining.  I have accounts at a credit union, and I haven't found them to be the best deal for anything.  I've looked at them for home loans, vehicle loans, credit cards, and money market accounts, and none of them competed with other sources for those products.  I'm sure some credit unions are better than others, but I haven't been blown away by anything about mine.  If a friend's wife didn't work for them, I wouldn't bother keeping deposit and checking accounts with them."

As with all things, your mileage WILL vary.

Smaller credit unions may not have the ability to compete with the larger corporate banks on rates, but the advantages may be less tangible in nature, such as a better, and far less cattle call, customer service experience or more local service options.

I belong to two of the largest credit unions in the United States -- Navy Federal (the largest, which rivals some national banks), and Pennsylvania State Employees.

When I bought my current Forester I looked at both for financing and was more than a little startled that I could do better by financing through a bank. I put part of that on the fact that both institutions have instituted risk based lending, which in my opinion has driven up rates for everyone on commodity loans.

Because of my credit rating I do get the best tier rates on other loans and credit cards, but it's still a little annoying.

I keep my mortgage with them primarily because while they sell the loan, they don't sell the servicing. If I ever have a problem, all I need to do is call Navy Federal. I don't have to sort through all of my freaking mail to see who owns my mortgage servicing for this month.

Back when my ex and I bought the house, we 3 different mortgage mortgage companies in the first 6 months.

Insanity.

The one thing I truly hate about Navy Federal is its phone system. It takes forever to actually reach a live human being if you need human service.

Their online banking portal (I was on the team that set up the first comprehensive NFCU online banking back in the mid 1990s; I wrote a lot of the customer documentation) is truly top flight. Even better, you can often text chat with a human FAR more easily than trying to get someone on the phone.

A few years ago my credit card was compromised. I called in to cancel it and get a new one. Wait time was 20 plus minutes. Friend recommended I try the text chat. In less than a minute I was chatting with a human who canceled my card, issued a new one, and because I use it so heavily, expedited delivery of the new card for free. Normally that expedited delivery would have been $35.

So yeah, the human touch that I've found to be very lacking in my experiences with large banks.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2025, 09:55:47 AM »
See if you have a credit union/bank nearby that offers free electronic bill pay on a checking account and auto deposit your pay into that account and use their bill pay service. 

Might want to rethink due to EBP in a direct-draft scenario directly links your bank account to the entity in question (i.e. if the entity's records or system are compromised, the actor has direct access to your account). Using a credit card air gaps the connection between paid entity and your bank account.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2025, 11:59:45 AM »
The nice people made a mistake of issuing me a Bass Pro card via Capital One... I have about 750 on it right now, and it gets a chunk about every two weeks, because I use it for a lot of stuff. Amazon did a Chase card, and I think I have about $150 on it... Also gets paid down frequently. I don't do a zero balance for long on either of them.
 
I may need to flog both pretty hard for some stuff soon, but hey... It'll get paid down within a few months.
 
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2025, 12:09:36 PM »
Might want to rethink due to EBP in a direct-draft scenario directly links your bank account to the entity in question (i.e. if the entity's records or system are compromised, the actor has direct access to your account). Using a credit card air gaps the connection between paid entity and your bank account.

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The way I do the electronic bill pay, it is more like issuing an electronic check from my bank.  I am sure at some point there is a connection, but I am not authorizing the company pull money out of my account.  I do agree that using a credit card is another layer of insulation.  Paying through something like Paypal might work as well.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2025, 12:21:23 PM »
I always had serious reservations about allowing companies to do direct drafting from my account.

But I've gotten over it. I keep very little money in my checking account. I move money from my savings to checking monthly to cover what I know is going to be going out that month, so if someone gets into my checking account they're not going to get much.

Also, allowing two companies to direct draft from my checking account I save almost $150 a year because I get a monthly reduction in how much they charge me, so ultimately I think it's worth it.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2025, 12:27:19 PM »
Also, allowing two companies to direct draft from my checking account I save almost $150 a year because I get a monthly reduction in how much they charge me, so ultimately I think it's worth it.
Yeah, more and more accounts are charging fees for using credit cards as well.  Fees that greatly outweigh the cash back the cards provide.

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2025, 12:30:02 PM »
Yeah, more and more accounts are charging fees for using credit cards as well.  Fees that greatly outweigh the cash back the cards provide.

I looked at paying a number of bills via my credit card to get rewards points.

Either the company didn't offer the option for CC payments, or as you say they tacked a pretty hefty fee on top.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2025, 12:47:13 PM »
They don't like it if you don't carry some sort of balance, and going zero all the time will actually hurt your credit score... I'll usually drop it to 100ish, and then run it back up for bills, etc...
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2025, 12:56:37 PM »
They don't like it if you don't carry some sort of balance, and going zero all the time will actually hurt your credit score... I'll usually drop it to 100ish, and then run it back up for bills, etc...



No, no it won't.

Low to no credit card utilization compared to available credit card debt limit increases maintains or increases your credit score.

https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/why-credit-scores-could-drop-after-paying-off-credit-cards/?msockid=1a40f20ecf936b69397ae0cfcef16a4d
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2025, 01:09:44 PM »
I have had a minimally used credit card drop me for lack of use.  A dropped credit card could impact your credit score as you lose total available credit and your used percentage will increase.

I was all broken up about it until I realized it was Discover and no one but Brad likes Discover.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2025, 01:19:23 PM »
I have had a minimally used credit card drop me for lack of use.  A dropped credit card could impact your credit score as you lose total available credit and your used percentage will increase.

I was all broken up about it until I realized it was Discover and no one but Brad likes Discover.


A closed account can be a LOT more damaging to your overall credit score, for a reason people don't realize...

Credit companies weight very highly the length of time you have had an account, which contributes to your overall credit history age.

If you close an account that you've had open for 10 years or more (for example) it can dramatically reduce your credit history age and that will smack the living hell out of your credit score.

For me, I've had my one credit card for just under 35 years. If that one were to be closed, it would absolutely devastate my credit history age and I'd probably drop from the 800s to the low 700s.

And, since I bank primarily with Navy Federal, which is a risk-based lending institution, it would drive my interest rates up.
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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2025, 02:38:48 PM »
One mention RE Discover Card. Be sure your retailers of choice actually take it. The reason you get more cashback/points is because it's more expensive for retailers to accept. Some don't take it for that reason.

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Re: bright shiny new credit score/what do I do with it?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2025, 04:17:45 PM »
On mention RE Discover Card. Be sure your retailers of choice actually take it. The reason you get more cashback/points is because it's more expensive for retailers to accept. Some don't take it for that reason.

Brad

Jennifer Coolidge says that 99% of places in the US that take credit cards take Discover!

Goddamn but those are some annoying commercials!


I said a big old FU to Discover back in college. They were pushing the Discover card HARD on my campus, and the guy convinced me to sign up for one because, as a soon-to-be college graduate, I was an absolute shoe in!

Couple of weeks later I get a rejection... the ONLY credit rejection I've ever gotten. Basic reason? You're just a poor, soon to be college graduate who has a ton of student loan debt (I didn't) and you'll never pay us back! FU!

From that day on Discover was absolutely dead to me. They have tried many, many times over the years. Maybe 20 years ago I got close to 100 Discover solicitations in one year.

Yeah, a big old FU to you ass clowns. I have my Visa.
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