Social Security under the spotlight.

[Ron]

Read a blurb where 25 million people over 100 years old are getting benefits, many 120yrs old +

Roughly 3/4 of a billion dollars in SS fraud.

Tried to find the article again and lost it, should be in the news today. Musk posted a spreadsheet last night.

[Northwoods]

Read a blurb where 25 million people over 100 years old are getting benefits, many 120yrs old +

Roughly 3/4 of a billion dollars in SS fraud.

Tried to find the article again and lost it, should be in the news today. Musk posted a spreadsheet last night.

$750mil is a drop in the bucket. When they find $750bil I'll be impressed.

[AZRedhawk44]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ZQfFTID14

Evidently there are "people" that are over 300 years old collecting Social Security.

Ida May Fuller ain't got $#!+ on them.

There are MILLIONS of people over 100 supposedly collecting SS.  Something around 12-13 million people aged 100 to 160 in the US collecting SS.

There may be a few DOZEN people over 100 in the US, but there is most certainly NOT 12 million of them.  Google suggests there is nearly 90,000 people over 100 in the US.  The oldest known person in the US is 114 years old, Naomi Whitehead.  Sara Knauss lived 119 years, and died in 1999.  So the SS Administration needs to get the names of all these millions of people 120 to 160 out for us to get in the Guinness Book of World Records.

[BobR]

I read a little blurb yesterday from some bureaucrat that I can't find now is that although there are millions of 100+ people on the SS rolls that not all of them are actually getting payments.

If that is supposed to make me feel better it didn't do it. If most are not receiving payments that means there are still some out there receiving payments.

bob

[cordex]

If that is supposed to make me feel better it didn't do it. If most are not receiving payments that means there are still some out there receiving payments.

One possible scenario is that given the number of people for whom "DOORNAIL" is not flagged in the database, maybe they only actually investigate requests for payments.  Sucks to have bad data, but if it isn't causing payments to go out ...

[MechAg94]

It just means they are making zero effort to clean up their database.

Also makes me wonder how many employees they have that are doing very little. 

[Northwoods]

I read a little blurb yesterday from some bureaucrat that I can't find now is that although there are millions of 100+ people on the SS rolls that not all of them are actually getting payments.

Probably technically correct. Someone else is getting the payments.

[Bogie]

Betcha that the fraud has REALLY ramped up after they started doing direct deposit... Paper checks would be a lot harder to fiddle... Now, they just would need to have it go to an account, and then immediately transfer to another, maybe another likely ending up overseas...

[Boomhauer]

Probably technically correct. Someone else is getting the payments.

We’ve had multiple cases here where elderly or children have died and the caretakers or “parents” have concealed the death in order to continue benefits

An example of each: Elderly man dies, relatives stick his corpse in an old camper to continue his check coming instead of reporting it. Caught when the smell hits the next property.

Baby in Section 8 housing (of course) dies of neglect. Mother sticks body in a plastic tote in a closet to keep the welfare coming and avoid charges. MIL’s now ex worked that case.

People out there are horrible and will do anything to keep checks rolling in.

[WLJ]

[Live Life]

Glad now "fraud expert" is running Social Security

Luke Rosiak - https://x.com/lukerosiak/status/1892334717866754219

Leland Dudek's boss put him on leave for helping DOGE find fraud. “They want to fire me,” he wrote. "I confess. I helped DOGE understand SSA."

Within hours, it was his boss who was fired, and the longtime SSA waste-watcher was elevated to lead the whole agency.

[Live Life]

Elon cutting off Social Security benefits to vampires and revolutionary war veterans ... 

Mario Nawfal - https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1892299543884058631

🚨🇺🇸SOCIAL SECURITY IS FUNDING THE UNDEAD | DOGE IS LOOKING FOR ANSWERS

Elon exposed a Social Security disaster—18.9 million people born before 1920 are still "alive" in government records, yet Census data says only 86,000 people over 100 actually exist.

How many of these ghost identities are still cashing checks?

The government won’t say, but Social Security admits to $71.8 billion in improper payments since 2015—some of it going to the deceased.

Meanwhile, undocumented workers are using these inactive Social Security numbers, reporting $8.5 billion in wages under identities that likely belong to the long-dead.

At this rate, Dracula might qualify for retirement benefits.

Source: CNBC

The Babylon Bee - https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1892288154759057507

Cruel: Elon Musk Cuts Off Social Security Benefits For Thousands Of Revolutionary War Veterans https://buff.ly/3CYrjaw

Elon Musk - https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892291569404751955

So cruel 😂

[Live Life]

Luke Rosiak - https://x.com/lukerosiak/status/1892334717866754219

Leland Dudek's boss put him on leave for helping DOGE find fraud. “They want to fire me,” he wrote. "I confess. I helped DOGE understand SSA."

Within hours, it was his boss who was fired, and the longtime SSA waste-watcher was elevated to lead the whole agency.

Glad now "fraud expert" is running Social Security

Elon's response 👍👍👍

Elon Musk - https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892413385804792307

There ARE good people in the government who want to eliminate fraud & waste.

Amazingly, Leland was fired by Social Security Administration upper management for helping
@DOGE find taxpayer savings. Can you believe that??

Thanks to President Trump, Leland was brought back right away and now HE is upper management 😎

Promote good players, exit bad players. That’s the right thing to do.

[Perd Hapley]

Doing things that make no sense. Criminalizing things that do make sense. It is the government way.

[cordex]

In Elon's latest JRE interview he mentions that most of those incorrectly marked dead people in the SS database aren't actually being used directly for SS fraud, but that the fact that they are marked as alive in the SS database is being used to backstop other fraud.

[MechAg94]

In Elon's latest JRE interview he mentions that most of those incorrectly marked dead people in the SS database aren't actually being used directly for SS fraud, but that the fact that they are marked as alive in the SS database is being used to backstop other fraud.

Building a bigger haystack to hide the needles?

[cordex]

Building a bigger haystack to hide the needles?

Sort of.  People using "dead, but marked as alive" (aka Bidened) social security numbers to show how they are alive and therefore qualify for disability or other benefits.  Because when the number is run it shows up as alive, and because there aren't sufficient cross-checks, it works.