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'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« on: October 13, 2007, 05:01:54 PM »
On top if signing AB 1471, the governor is now protecting us from the hate-filled terms 'mom' 'dad' 'husband' and 'wife'.


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Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.

"With this decision, Gov. Schwarzenegger has told parents that their values are irrelevant. Many parents will have no choice but to pull their children out of the public schools that have now become sexualized indoctrination centers."

"Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, which worked to defeat the plans. "This means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms.

"Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.

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Analysts have warned that schools across the nation will be impacted by the decision, since textbook publishers must cater to their largest purchaser, which often is California, and they will be unlikely to go to the expense of having a separate edition for other states.

The bills signed by Schwarzenegger include SB777, which bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality, bisexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

There are no similar protections for students with traditional or conservative lifestyles and beliefs, however.

"SB 777 will result in reverse discrimination against students with religious and traditional family values," said Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute. "These students have lost their voice as the direct result of Gov. Schwarzenegger's unbelievable decision. The terms 'mom and dad' or 'husband and wife' could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured.

"Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic  not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation," she said.

Also signed was AB394, which targets parents and teachers for such indoctrination through "anti-harassment" training, CCF said.

Schwarzenegger had vetoed almost identical provisions a year ago, saying existing state law already provided for penalties for discrimination.

"We had hoped that the governor would once again veto this outrageous legislation but he obviously decided to side with the out-of-touch extremists that control the legislature. This law does not reflect the true values of the average Californian," said England. "True leadership means standing up for what is true and right."

Thomasson said SB777 prohibits any "instruction" or school-sponsored "activity" that "promotes a discriminatory bias" against "gender"  the bill's definition includes cross-dressing and sex changes  as well as "sexual orientation."

"Because no textbook or instruction in California public schools currently disparages transsexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, the practical effect of SB777 will be to require positive portrayals of these sexual lifestyles at every government-operated school," CCF noted.

Offenders will face the wrath of the state Department of Education, up to and including lawsuits.

CCF noted that now on a banned list will be any text, reference or teaching aid that portrays marriage as only between a man and woman, materials that say people are born male or female (and not in between), sources that fail to include a variety of transsexual, bisexual and homosexual historical figures, and sex education materials that fail to offer the option of sex changes.

Further, homecoming kings now can be either male or female  as can homecoming queens, and students, whether male or female, must be allowed to use the restroom and locker room corresponding to the sex with which they choose to identify.

AB394 promotes the same issues through state-funded publications, postings, curricula and handouts to students, parents and teachers.

It also creates the circumstances where a parent who says marriage is only for a man and a woman in the presence of a lesbian teacher could be convicted of "harassment," and a student who believes people are born either male or female could be reported as a "harasser" by a male teacher who wears women's clothes, CCF said.

Thomasson said Schwarzenegger also signed AB14, which prohibits state funding for any program that does not support a range of alternative sexual practices, including state-funded social services run by churches.

Affected will be day cares, preschool or after-school programs, food and housing programs, senior services, anti-gang efforts, jobs programs and others.

Thomasson said it also forces every hospital in California  even private, religious hospitals  to adopt policies in support of transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality and opens up nonprofit organizations to lawsuits if they exclude members that engage in homosexual, bisexual, or transsexual conduct.

"It's the height of intolerance to punish individuals, organizations, businesses, and churches that have moral standards on sexual conduct and sexual lifestyles," said Thomasson, in response to the signing of AB14. "This is another insensitive law that violates people's moral boundaries."

The vitriol over the issue rose to new levels in its latest campaign.

As WND reported, a board member for the homosexual advocacy group Equality California verbally attacked and threatened CRI for its opposition to the bill earlier.

The board member sent an e-mail and video to CRI threatening the group would be buried if it continued efforts opposing the homosexual advocacy.

"The shocking hate mail we received shows that those behind this legislation do not promote true tolerance," said England. "Only politically correct speech will be tolerated. Those with religious or traditional moral beliefs will not be allowed to express their opinions in public schools."

She also cited an informational document published by the Gay-Straight Alliance Network and the Transgender Law Center that already is lobbying for special treatment in the school system.

"If you want to use a restroom that matches your gender identity & you should be allowed to do so," it advises. "Whenever students are divided up into boys and girls, you should be allowed to join the group or participate in the program that matches your gender identity as much as possible."

Further, the groups advise, "If you change your name to one that better matches your gender identity, a school needs to use that name to refer to you." The advocacy group also warns schools against bringing parents into any such discussion with students.

WND has documented a number of earlier cases in which educators, including leaders in California, have taken it upon themselves to promote a homosexual lifestyle to children under their charge.

WND reported California Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O'Connell, under whose supervision hundreds of thousands of children are being educated, has used his state position and taxpayer-funded stationery to praise a "gay" pride event used in the past to expose children to sexually explicit activities.

That drew vehement objections from several educators, including Priscilla Schreiber, the president of the Grossmont Unified High School District governing board.

"I am outraged that a person in this high-ranking elected position would advocate an event where diversity is not just being celebrated but where pornography and indecent exposure is being perpetrated on the young and innocent children of our communities," she said.


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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 05:09:35 PM »
WTF? I mean really where do these people come up with this crap. And you all make fun of NJ.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 05:15:02 PM »
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Further, homecoming kings now can be either male or female  as can homecoming queens, and students, whether male or female, must be allowed to use the restroom and locker room corresponding to the sex with which they choose to identify.

What the hell.  Really.

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 05:48:37 PM »
nuke it from orbit (to quote bogie)....

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 05:52:25 PM »
Reality check folks:  A bill to ban negative references to homosexuality is not a bill to ban "mom" and "dad."

It's part of a movement to bring homosexuality to the same level of protection as race, not a secret plot to destroy the world.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 05:55:19 PM »
*Checks calender - NOT April 1 - WTF?!??!?*
They can't be serious, can they?
*Reads article again*

Funny though. I thought that homosexuality/bisexuality was something one was more or less born with. Not very common to see gay rights activists saying that homosexuality is a "life style choice". Seems like we usually get that from various religious groups (the ones who try to "cure" homo/bisexuals).

This is patently silly though.

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 06:04:43 PM »
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It's part of a movement to bring homosexuality to the same level of protection as race, not a secret plot to destroy the world. 
 

I'd love to know which planet your typical leftist comes from, because their "logic" never ceases to amaze.

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 06:07:21 PM »
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who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

Public schools. Boys allowed to go into girls' locker room.

Oh, yeah, THAT will work. Around eighth grade or so, what boy would NOT?!

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2007, 06:48:47 PM »
OK Folks, let me explain what SB777 is REALLY about.  Shootinstudent started, but let me expound a bit.

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Further, homecoming kings now can be either male or female  as can homecoming queens, and students, whether male or female, must be allowed to use the restroom and locker room corresponding to the sex with which they choose to identify.

This is a many people have no experience with; gender dysphoria or whatever iut's called now.  It's not about letting Little Johnny use the girls room for a cheap thrill.  It's about allowing someone that has Gender Identity Disorder to be able to effectively live as a member of the opposite sex, as the DSM-IV and ICD-10 recommend as a treatment.

Read this article for a good overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2007, 08:43:59 PM »
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It's part of a movement to bring homosexuality to the same level of protection as race, not a secret plot to destroy the world. 
 

I'd love to know which planet your typical leftist comes from, because their "logic" never ceases to amaze.


Well, on this issue it's very simple logic: the backers of this bill think people should be protected from discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation the same way that people are protected from discrimination on the basis of race.  This bill is a part of that agenda.



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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 08:45:39 PM »
They already are protected from discrimination by California law.  Using the terms mom and dad, husband and wife, in a text book is not discrimination. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 08:47:04 PM »
I'm sure this is an ubiased and absolutely correct accounting of what the bill actually does, right?
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 08:47:28 PM »
They already are protected from discrimination by California law.  Using the terms mom and dad, husband and wife, in a text book is not discrimination. 

The bill does not ban using the terms mom and dad.  The article is quoting an interest group as claiming that banning discrimination against gays means that schools won't be able to use those words, but that is hype.  
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2007, 08:50:25 PM »
News link or web cite please

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2007, 08:56:27 PM »
Sorry, I forgot to post the link.  Here it is.  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2007, 09:00:28 PM »
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_777&sess=CUR&house=B&author=kuehl

You can read the text of the bill and various analyses there.

It is not a bill to ban "mom" and "dad".

One key piece not covered in the article:

   [Section 12] 221.  This article shall not apply to an educational institution
that is controlled by a religious organization if the application
would not be consistent with the religious tenets of that
organization.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2007, 07:31:20 AM »
California...

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2007, 08:39:26 AM »
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who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms

Hmmmm........

You know, I get very confused about my gender identity right about the time the womens volleyball games get done........
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2007, 10:27:50 AM »
I'm sure this is an ubiased and absolutely correct accounting of what the bill actually does, right?

Of course it is.  Worldnutdaily is well known for their unbiased carefully researched in depth non-partisan reporting.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2007, 03:57:27 PM »
So with this Bill at a state university a male could shower with the females if he just said he associated himself as homosexual?

Oh the fun I would had with it if happened while I was in college.

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 01:06:44 AM »
So with this Bill at a state university a male could shower with the females if he just said he associated himself as homosexual?

Oh the fun I would had with it if happened while I was in college.



Wrong.
He/she would have to be under treatment for gender dysphoria.  If someone wants to use the woman's shower, they have to be living as a woman, even if they are genetically male, for instance.

As I said before, it's NOT to allow someone to just walk into somewhere to get their jollies.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2007, 04:51:01 AM »
Wait till this filters down to the elementary schools.
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 04:52:57 AM »
Wrong.
He/she would have to be under treatment for gender dysphoria.  If someone wants to use the woman's shower, they have to be living as a woman, even if they are genetically male, for instance.

And the legal definition of "living as a woman" is...?

Just wait'll the first time a "Chester the Molester" decides to declare themselves female and lives as a very ugly man in a dress just so they can use the women's shower at the local gym...

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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 05:29:05 AM »
"And the legal definition of "living as a woman" is...?"

Being married?  laugh
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Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2007, 07:18:46 AM »
So Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts will be no more in California?

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