For all you pit bull lovers

[Regolith]

Yeah, he got jumped on pretty hard.  We have talked about this before without this sort of reaction. 

Meh.  Cluebat is a learning experience.  Tough love even.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/admiraltigerclaw/cluebat.jpg

Well, that, and because he's been a bit of a prick about it:

I had no idea Mike Vick and his dog fight buddy's posted here. Why do you think  they call them pit bulls? Maybe because they where breed to fight in pits? To the death? Yeah just regular dogs.

 

Our rescue from Tennessee has some of that lineage in her. She's not pure ABPT, too tall, and too long in the muzzle, and does not have that thick "bully stance" to her, but otherwise looks like a "Pitt". We think she might have been an 'oops', not bred true, and used as a bait/training dog. She'd been in rescue for 6 months to deliver and wean a litter of pups she was pregnant with, and still covered in scabs/scars working their way out.

Loves all humans. Useless as a watchdog. All 75 lbs of her will climb into a strangers lap uninvited if they sit down in our house. She's also a bundle of nerves. Even after 6 years in our house, she still shies away every time she comes in and out of a door, terrified of fireworks, thunder etc.

Insanely dog-aggressive. She'll accept puppies, kittens without problem, but any grown dog, it's on. She's only walked on a chest harness with a 250-lbs test leash/strap. The kids all know if she gets loose and is reported for an incident, dog or human, she's done for. She gets the needle, even if the authorities don't demand it.

My sister's dog is half pit and -- we think -- half retriever, of some kind. Not aggressive, at all. Not towards other dogs, not towards nothin'. Otherwise sounds exactly like your dog, though she's a bit more shy around strangers; she won't cuddle unless you've been around her for a while.

She's not a rescue, though; my sister's had her since she was a puppy.

[Scout26]

I'll remind everyone the middle name of this fora.  Let's argue the topic and not the person.  If you think this applies to something you may have posted, feel free to go back and edit/remove it.

[jim in anchorage]

Yeah, this one:



 
Why is that dog wearing a toilet seat ?

[Calumus]

What are the numbers for biting and killing for other breeds?  Kind of pointless with that comparison.  Deaths due to dog attacks are pretty rare considering the numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2014

It seems like the CDC is a little behind. This is interesting because there's a blurb about each specific case instead of just a number.

[Perd Hapley]

It might be more fun to keep it "Sirius"

Good one.

[wmenorr67]

Good one.

Just now got it.

[LadySmith]

Jim, please keep in mind that a pit bull dog is just a dog. They have to be "trained" (tortured) into becoming the vicious beasts people love to hate. 

[wmenorr67]

Jim, please keep in mind that a pit bull dog is just a dog. They have to be "trained" (tortured) into becoming the vicious beasts people love to hate. 

A lot like people.

[Scout26]

IIRC, AJ has two sets of twin daughters, very close in age.  Apparently, during their potty training, said dog used to like to go and eat "Kiddie Treats" as dog are wont to do from time to time.  The rest is self-explanatory.

[MechAg94]

I'll remind everyone the middle name of this fora.  Let's argue the topic and not the person.  If you think this applies to something you may have posted, feel free to go back and edit/remove it.

This thread was beyond that long ago. 

[Jamisjockey]

There are a number of Bully breeds.  And most people just point and say "pit bull" or "pit mix" when they see one. 
And it's naive to think that pits are the only breed of dog bred for fighting or for protection.
Any dog will bite and even kill given the right circumstances.  Dogs bred for fighting and protection are more likely to, sure.  Pits aren't alone in that distinction.

[Stand_watie]

There are a number of Bully breeds.  And most people just point and say "pit bull" or "pit mix" when they see one any dog they think is behaving badly...

FIFY

The sweet pooch in my avatar had to be put down because he had the misfortune to like to play with his mouth open, and two children had "bites" from hitting body parts on teeth, and apparently Texas teachers are allowed no common sense whatsoever in required reporting of dog "bites" to police.

I know over-authoritarian cops have a bad rep on this forum, and with good cause, but I can tell you over-authoritarian educators can be worse...

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may
at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end for they do so with the approval
of their own conscience."

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Oh crap. I have a 3 inch gash on my arm from me shoving my border collie away and literally raking my arm over his teeth as he panted. I am sorry for your loss man

[Stand_watie]

Oh crap. I have a 3 inch gash on my arm from me shoving my border collie away and literally raking my arm over his teeth as he panted. I am sorry for your loss man

It's been several years now. I was able to hold him while vet administered euthanasia, and he didn't feel pain or suffer in any way.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I was thinking about your pain too


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[Scout26]

I know that anecdote(s) do not equal data, but I think I have two data points.

1)  Buddy of mine in Kankakee county has two Pit-mixes.  The only danger Robert is in when he's down there is being licked and loved to death.  (I think it was Ann Landers who said "Every dog needs a boy").  One will play fetch until he collapses or your arm falls off whichever comes first.   The other wants nothing more then to be as close to you as possible with as much of his body as possible.   Going inside and sitting down results in Robert being covered in dogs, both who want nothing more then constant and continuous petting and scratching.

2)  We volunteer as Dog Walkers/Socializers at our county pound.  At least 1/6 to 1/3 of dogs there are Pit (mixes).  Any dog that is people or animal (dog or cat) aggressive are put down.  Only those that pass those (and a couple other tests) are put up for adoption.   And each dog has it's own unique personality.  Some love to play fetch in the cages (where we can take them off the leash).  Others will walk and walk and walk.  Some will simply do their business and look for a bench to sleep under.  We never know what a dog enjoys doing.  But their temperament and personality are not predictable based on what's written on the adoption card: Breed, age, sex, and background (if known).  They are all fixed and chipped.

Now, I'm not a fan of the breed (I'm not a fan of big dogs, other then hunting breeds like GSP's), but I've been around them enough to know that it's not the breed but the owner.  And that the "Dangerous" label is more appropriate to the owner(s) and not the dog.

[Andiron]

I know that anecdote(s) do not equal data, but I think I have two data points.


2)  We volunteer as Dog Walkers/Socializers at our county pound.  At least 1/6 to 1/3 of dogs there are Pit (mixes).  Any dog that is people or animal (dog or cat) are put down.  Only those that pass those (and a couple other tests) are put up for adoption.   And each dog has it's own unique personality.  Some love to play fetch in the cages (where we can take them off the leash).  Others will walk and walk and walk.  Some will simply do their business and look for a bench to sleep under.  We never know what a dog enjoys doing.  But their is not predicting based on what's written on the adoption card: Breed, age, sex, and background (if known).  They are all fixed and chipped.

Obviously you're wrong and the only thing that matters is breed,  and any critter that has even a drop of that DNA needs put down.   

[jim in anchorage]

Meh.  Cluebat is a learning experience.  Tough love even.

I don't know what Cluebat means nor do I care. This discussion went off the rails as soon as posters started comparing a animal that kills on it's own with a AR 15.

Also I hate "Meh" Is that even a word? I know all the cool kids use it.

[Northwoods]

A Cluebat is a means of beating a clue into someone.  Clearly it wasn't used to full effectiveness here.

This discussion went off the rails when the OP posted a bunch of hyperbole that was pretty thoroughly disputed by just about all of the subsequent posters.

Any dog can kill on its own.  Being a pit bull is not statistically significant as a risk factor, partly because so many "pit bulls" in the reports of attacks aren't actually pit bulls. 

[Andiron]

I don't know what Cluebat means nor do I care. This discussion went off the rails as soon as posters started comparing a animal that kills on it's own with a AR 15.

Also I hate "Meh" Is that even a word? I know all the cool kids use it.

You were called on  your BS,  don't blame me for the subsequent beating.  

Fix yourself.  Or don't.  IDGARA.

And this is a spinoff of a gun forum.  If you can't see how *expletive deleted*ing ridiculous you look when I change "pit bull" to "AR 15",  I can't help you.

[Ron]

Thanks Jim!

I was feeling like we piled on a bit but since you have decided to keep digging I'm feeling much better now. 

Don't *expletive deleted*ck with me or I'll unleash my sisters pitbull on you, lol. You might get tail whipped and slobbered on so much that you will give up, ha ha ha.

[Scout26]

a(n) animal that kills on it's own with a AR 15.

To the best of my knowledge, they are not "capable of killing on their own", but must be trained (or tortured) to do so. 

Much like an AR15.  It too, can be used for good or evil, depending on the owner.

Get it?

[jim in anchorage]

A Cluebat is a means of beating a clue into someone.  Clearly it wasn't used to full effectiveness here.

This discussion went off the rails when the OP posted a bunch of hyperbole that was pretty thoroughly disputed by just about all of the subsequent posters.

Any dog can kill on its own.  Being a pit bull is not statistically significant as a risk factor, partly because so many "pit bulls" in the reports of attacks aren't actually pit bulls. 

Hyperbole? I Posted a link to a pit bull attack. Not hard to find at all. I think I could find one a day if I tried.
Go ahead if you wish to have a contest. Post deaths caused by non pit bulls. I am restricted to pit bulls only and I will win.

[Perd Hapley]

Hyperbole? I Posted a link to a pit bull attack. Not hard to find at all. I think I could find one a day if I tried.
Go ahead if you wish to have a contest. Post deaths caused by non pit bulls. I am restricted to pit bulls only and I will win.

 


http://www.mosquito.org/mosquito-borne-diseases

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101008112420.htm

[Doggy Daddy]

http://www.mosquito.org/mosquito-borne-diseases

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101008112420.htm

I am in awe!