Multiple Terrorist Attacks in Paris

[charby]

Turkey has not "taken them in"  They are in refugee camps along the border.  Turkey has been moving them through to Greece partly because they hate Greece and also to relieve pressure on their southern border.  

The "refugees" know which countries have the best freebies, which is why they want to head to Hungary, Sweden, Germany, Denmark, and the like.  They don't want to stay in Greece, Blugaria, Romania, or any of the former Yugoslavia states, no freebies there, and they are hated.  (See: Battle of Mohács, The Siege of Vienna [which is where crescent rolls come from], the Battle of Vienna, and the War of the Holy League/Great Turkish War.  History is important in this part of the world, so there's no excuse for being ignorant of it.)

Plus again, the vast majority of these "refugees" are military age men.  Idle hands and all that....

Wrong on refugees not staying in Turkey

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/11/turkey-syria-ankara-allows-refugees-to-remain.html#

No *expletive deleted*it on Muslims (or any middle easterners) not being welcome in the *expletive deleted*it hole eastern European countries.

All the news stories I have read or heard depicts refugees of all ages, not just military aged males.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/

maybe lay off the right wing web sites and talk radio?

[HeroHog]

158 and counting...

SUB2000 comes out of the safe and ALL the mags that fit it and the S&W Model 59 including the 2 32 round ones are topped off and seated.

[Ben]

I've been to the UAE several times. Ok they are moderate, rich, whatever. The people are still racist and they don't like anyone not them. they will tolerate you as long as you are handy. Oh, and not many trees to look after either. 

Former girlfriend's dad ran a powerplant in the UAE circa 1997. He said anytime the power went out for any significant amount of time, all the Americans and Europeans had to go to safe rooms lest the mob that swarmed the plant take their frustrations out on them. Once the power was back on, it was like nothing had ever happened. The way he described it could have been a Twilight Zone episode.

[roo_ster]

So? There's enough militants already in the country to keep attacks like this going for weeks if not months.

Indeed.

I worry about them, they leave one country where they are being killed for who they are only to arrive in a "western" country where they also need to fear for their lives because people are setting fire to camp because of who they are.

Only a small minority are Syrians fleeing Syria.  The rest are from N Africa, Sub-Sarahan Africa, Bosnia, and other places.  They are not refugees but "economic migrants" fleeing the dung hills they have made of their own countries for the land of welfare and free housing.  

They need fear their camps being fired not becoase of who they are, but because they invaded someone else's home.  

Most of those "friendly" countries are eastern European *expletive deleted*it holes.

Where they were not being murdered by ISIS & Assad or bombed by the Russians or America.  Once they picked up from Turkey and moved west, they were no longer refugees, but mere illegal aliens looking to suck on the welfare teat of the west.

Wrong on refugees not staying in Turkey

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/11/turkey-syria-ankara-allows-refugees-to-remain.html#

And you just undercut your argument that these are pore, starvin' refugees.  As soon as they leave Turkey and go west, they are no longer refugees, but invaders/economic migrants engaging in a volkswanderung.

Former girlfriend's dad ran a powerplant in the UAE circa 1997. He said anytime the power went out for any significant amount of time, all the Americans and Europeans had to go to safe rooms lest the mob that swarmed the plant take their frustrations out on them. Once the power was back on, it was like nothing had ever happened. The way he described it could have been a Twilight Zone episode.

They might have lots of oil money, but they can not buy civilization. 

[TommyGunn]

Let's not forget...

This morning our prescient commander in chief said that ISIS is contained and decapitated...

I feel better already.

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So Obama is worrying about the JV Team now?   

[Scout26]

maybe lay off the right wing web sites and talk radio?

Perhaps you shouldn't rely on leftwing websites for your proof to jump to your conclusions.  Are you now saying that the BBC, Berliner Zeitung, Frankfurter Allegemaine, and Deutsche Welle are right wing ??

I may not be able to speak it all that well anymore, but I sure as hell can read it pretty damn good. 

[BlueStarLizzard]

Does it really matter if the fake refugees are a minority or a majority in these countries?

It doesn't take all that many to do what they did to Paris, relatively speaking, and as long as they continue to have the means to enter the countries in question and do what they are doing, this problem will not end.

This does not end well for either the countries that are being overwhelmed by refugees or the actual refugees, regardless of how many are actually Muslim extremists.

And yes, I do believe the actual refugees need to be held at least partially accountable for their brethren and countrymen. If this continues, eventually they are going to run out of places to run too simply because there is no place left safe from the people they are running from.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I would live in UAE or Azerbaijan if there were an economic opportunity for me.

So the answer is still  none?

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[De Selby]

So the answer is still  none?

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How many majority Christian countries would you live in? 

[Laurent du Var]

It finally happened, I was pesimistically waiting for an attack like this in France, I'd rather be wrong. Shooting in a concert hall and in the Stade de France and 4 other places at the same time, including suicidal explosive belts. We d'on't get any information about who, why and how, it is 08h45 now and no information other than on what has happened. This is not good and will end worse.
  

[dogmush]

Glad to see you're posting (and around to do so).

Being more familiar then us with French feelings right now, how hard do you think your government is going to be in response to this? 

[Blakenzy]

If people are smart they won't let the government, who through foolish foreign policy and negligent domestic practices set up a situation that allowed this event, throw all their civil liberties into the flames and take away all their Rights, or what Rights they have left.

"They hate us for our Freedoms"... So lets git rid of them freedoms to be safe!

[RoadKingLarry]

I suspect that is pretty much what would happen here in the event of such an attack.

[Jamisjockey]

Ah, the "Arab spring" comes home to roost.  I'm sure we'll be next.

[Perd Hapley]

How many majority Christian countries would you live in? 

Honest question: do you consider Australia and/or the U.S. to be majority Christian countries?

[charby]

Perhaps you shouldn't rely on leftwing websites for your proof to jump to your conclusions.  Are you now saying that the BBC, Berliner Zeitung, Frankfurter Allegemaine, and Deutsche Welle are right wing ??

I may not be able to speak it all that well anymore, but I sure as hell can read it pretty damn good. 

Berliner Zeitung and Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung: I don't read German very well.


BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24900116

This might be the paragraph where people are pulling the military aged male from:

http://www.dw.com/en/survey-leaves-no-doubt-syrians-are-fleeing-assad/a-18775789

Heiko Giebler, who managed the survey as a scientific mentor from the Social Science Research Center Berlin, considers the results to be valid. "The point is not the percentage," he said, "but the clear trends." The public perception of young men being the largest group of refugees in Germany has been confirmed by the fact that the majority of respondents claim to be male and between the ages 16 and 25.

Perhaps the 16-25 year old males are the only % of the refugees that can communicate in a 2nd language to the survey team? Maybe the females, middle aged, elderly and children are too scared to respond. Maybe the males stood up to protect the other refugees? Also if you look at the survey they want to be rid of Assad and just find peace and comfort somewhere.

[charby]

So the answer is still  none?

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I wouldn't move anywhere unless there is an economic gain for me. Whether this be Wyoming or UAE.

[Laurent du Var]

Glad to see you're posting (and around to do so).

Being more familiar then us with French feelings right now, how hard do you think your government is going to be in response to this? 

Other than being outraged and sad as the population would be, the politicians put a lot of efford into saying we're at war now (with the islamic state) rather than experiencing a terrorist attack, which sounds a lot like preparing an intervention over there (Syria) which we really don't need now. Either the extremists are really, really smart or we're just really dumb in good old Europe: First we're under siege by a ton of Syrian refugees, than we have terrorist attacks which is bringing one more reason as if we needed one to go back to Syria: That's what I call a lose, lose & lose situation.        

[roo_ster]

Ah, the "Arab spring" comes home to roost.  I'm sure we'll be next.

I recall discussing this with micro "ragequit" balrog and suggesting that busting off the lid that the average arab dictator kept on his population would not end well.

[roo_ster]

Perhaps the 16-25 year old males are the only % of the refugees that can communicate in a 2nd language to the survey team? Maybe the females, middle aged, elderly and children are too scared to respond. Maybe the males stood up to protect the other refugees? Also if you look at the survey they want to be rid of Assad and just find peace and comfort somewhere.

And maybe unicorns lick ice cream cones with a prehensile tongue out of their fourth point of contact.

"To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle."
----George Orwell

Orwell, wise as he was, did not consider those that did not want ot see reality, but striggled mightily to not see what was in front of their nose.

[charby]

And maybe unicorns lick ice cream cones with a prehensile tongue out of their fourth point of contact.

"To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle."
----George Orwell

Orwell, wise as he was, did not consider those that did not want ot see reality, but striggled mightily to not see what was in front of their nose.

If I only saw what you see: It isn't white, male, American born, protestant and heterosexual it is lower than human.

[roo_ster]

If I only saw what you see: It isn't white, male, American born, protestant and heterosexual it is lower than human.

Keep banging your high chair with your spoon and flinging your strained peas.  Eventually someone will care.

Someone other than me.

[brimic]

If I only saw what you see: It isn't white, male, American born, protestant and heterosexual it is lower than human.

Yeah, I think the French media has it all wrong- it was actually Christian protesters who carried out the attacks, again.

[Perd Hapley]

If I only saw what you see: It isn't white, male, American born, protestant and heterosexual it is lower than human.

Acknowledge your privilege, roo_ster! 

[roo_ster]

Yeah, I think the French media has it all wrong- it was actually Christian protesters who carried out the attacks, again.

Q: What goes CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP--------BANG!!!!!
A: Amish suicide carriage bomber.

(Still, I wonder how they managed to travel to continental Europe.  Rowboat?)

Acknowledge your privilege, roo_ster! 

Who am I to argue with evolution?