Self Defense via SUV

[dogmush]

So we have another thread talking about surplus MRAP's. Is that only for cops or are they going to DRMO auction...........

[Tallpine]

"He ain't much of a truck driver, either.  He just ran over a bunch of motorcycles out in the parking lot."

[AZRedhawk44]

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20870446-undercover-cop-seen-on-video-attacking-suv?chromedomain=insidedateline

Evidently undercover cop is actually one of the ones to start smashing on the SUV and broke out one of its windows.

Really.

But, CSD will be along soon to explain why that's okay.  It's hard being a cop.  Sob.  Sob. Sniffle.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/08/20870446-undercover-cop-seen-on-video-attacking-suv?chromedomain=insidedateline

Evidently undercover cop is actually one of the ones to start smashing on the SUV and broke out one of its windows.

Really.

But, CSD will be along soon to explain why that's okay.  It's hard being a cop.  Sob.  Sob. Sniffle.

gonna disappoint you
now we know why he waited for days to speak up and has lawyer-ed up . still not spoken to investigaters too.
his union will defend him though  and probably sucessfully

[geronimotwo]

likely he was just trying to demonstrate what would happen if the window broke,  you know, so the people inside could properly prepare themselves for flying glass shards.   [sarcasm off] 

[Tallpine]

likely he was just trying to demonstrate what would happen if the window broke,  you know, so the people inside could properly prepare themselves for flying glass shards.   [sarcasm off] 

Was probably joining in to maintain his "cover" 

Good thing it wasn't a gang rape 

[MechAg94]

The question in my mind is did his actions incite the overall situation?  If so, then he is an accessory to the assault and battery.  It shouldn't matter that he left. 

How many cops does NYPD have running around playing criminal?

[French G.]

The question in my mind is did his actions incite the overall situation?  If so, then he is an accessory to the assault and battery.  It shouldn't matter that he left. 

How many cops does NYPD have running around playing criminal?

Trick question, no fair.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Trick question, no fair.

not too tricky
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/undercover-lied-role-biker-beatdown-suv-driver-source-article-1.1479369

[Boomhauer]

Well too bad the detective wasn't the one run over and paralyzed...

[RoadKingLarry]

How many cops does NYPD have running around playing criminal?

All of them!

What do I win?

[KD5NRH]

You know, sometimes I worry about my choice of a five-shot car gun.

Then I think about how unlikely people are to volunteer to be the second example of what magnum #4 buckshot loads at contact distance will do to a human head.

And yes, I can get it from the back floorboard to muzzle-against-either-front-window faster than I can start the car.

[French G.]

All of them!

What do I win?

the trick question to which i referred

[Boomhauer]

You know, sometimes I worry about my choice of a five-shot car gun.

Then I think about how unlikely people are to volunteer to be the second example of what magnum #4 buckshot loads at contact distance will do to a human head.

And yes, I can get it from the back floorboard to muzzle-against-either-front-window faster than I can start the car.

I started keeping a longgun in the truck about 6 years ago. I don't *expletive deleted*ck around when it comes to "bring firepower, and plenty of it". When you pull out a shotgun people tend to suddenly feel their self preservation urges come to life and they completely lose interest in harming you.

[AmbulanceDriver]

You know, sometimes I worry about my choice of a five-shot car gun.

Then I think about how unlikely people are to volunteer to be the second example of what magnum #4 buckshot loads at contact distance will do to a human head.

And yes, I can get it from the back floorboard to muzzle-against-either-front-window faster than I can start the car.

I kinda feel the same way.   I just need to get a truck gun of some type.   Maybe a basic Mossberg shotgun with a side-saddle or similar.

But while I agree that the logical thought process would be "hey, my buddy just got his head blowed off!  maybe I wanna think about un-arsing the area....."   The pursuit mentality does something to the brain....   This story comes to mind:  http://www.davehayes.org/2006/02/10/the-gary-fadden-incident

[MillCreek]

They need to make a nice coach gun with a synthetic stock.  Like the Stoeger Double Defense. 

[Boomhauer]

I kinda feel the same way.   I just need to get a truck gun of some type.   Maybe a basic Mossberg shotgun with a side-saddle or similar.

But while I agree that the logical thought process would be "hey, my buddy just got his head blowed off!  maybe I wanna think about un-arsing the area....."   The pursuit mentality does something to the brain....   This story comes to mind:  http://www.davehayes.org/2006/02/10/the-gary-fadden-incident

Extra ammunition is for when they don't get the idea...

They need to make a nice coach gun with a synthetic stock.  Like the Stoeger Double Defense. 

Personally, the last thing I want to do when considering a defensive arm is to limit myself to two shots before a reload...

[AZRedhawk44]

You know, sometimes I worry about my choice of a five-shot car gun.

I also vacillate between the psychological impact of a demonstration of the "making Ike's head into a canoe" concept, versus the applicability of having 15+ rounds.  

I don't want to have something actually valuable as a "truck gun" so the AR is out.  And doing 3/4 of my travel on a motorcycle nowadays, more often than not even a cheap shotgun or thuddythuddy isn't an option.  Just regular CCW.  Though next bike is gonna have a secure storage compartment that will end up holding a couple extra mags.

[AmbulanceDriver]

Extra ammunition is for when they don't get the idea...

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree.  My defensive handguns, I have at least 15 rounds on me.  More often 25.   But this is the one thing I don't like about single-stack magazines.   But dangit, I like my 1911...

I'm honestly thinking that my short Mosin-Nagant with several stripper clips may do ok for a truck gun.  Slow to reload, but definitely not underpowered, and to be blunt, that side folding bayonet is there for a reason.

[Boomhauer]

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree.  My defensive handguns, I have at least 15 rounds on me.  More often 25.   But this is the one thing I don't like about single-stack magazines.   But dangit, I like my 1911...

I'm honestly thinking that my short Mosin-Nagant with several stripper clips may do ok for a truck gun.  Slow to reload, but definitely not underpowered, and to be blunt, that side folding bayonet is there for a reason.

what I also do is keep several additional magazines in the center console for my pistol so that if I am having to use that without getting a chance to employ the favored longgun I've got plenty of ammunition on tap.

I figure that if I am out of my vehicle and in a store then the threat is likely to be handled by the two spare mags I carry on body but if I am being assaulted in/at my vehicle by a mob/riot/whatever then I've got plenty of rounds on hand to dole out as early Christmas presents...

And should I run out of the ammunition in the vehicle then I've got the vehicle itself, ax, kuhkri, tomahawk, fire extinguisher, crowbar (I LOVE me a good crowbar), etc to settle accounts personally.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

how illegal are those car mounted flames throwers like they have in south africa

[French G.]

Very.

Can of bear spray would be fun, only problem is keeping it outside.

Car bag is 3 30rd glock mags and a 17rd.

[vaskidmark]

....

Can of bear spray would be fun, only problem is keeping it outside.

....

Why?

I've kept mine in the cup holder through the summer with no problems.

I do replace it every year just in case the heat may have deteriorated the potency, but that's paranoia on my part.

And yes, I do think - often - of rolling up next to that idiot with the hyper-bass speakers.  So far I have managed to restrain my urge.

Pro tip - make sure your windows are rolled down before deploying pepper spray from your vehicle.  Brought to you by a NRA-certified instructor who demonstrated to an entire class why that is necessary.

stay safe.

[MechAg94]

I acquired a Keltec sub2000 not to long ago in 40 cal.  That and a handful of 22 round mags fits in a normal looking duffle real easy.  That might be a good cheap option if they become available.  It has enough accuracy at distance I think, even if it isn't a tack driver.

[brimic]

5shot revolver is backed up with tomahawk/entrenching shovel within arms reach, SKS or AR-15 in trunk, depending on vehicle.
I work in a marginally bad neighborhood (did I mention there was a mugging/rape yesterday right outside? The police also found an unrelated corpse nearby while investigating) surrounded by miles of ghetto in most directions.