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What will win the presidency in 2020?

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #525 on: November 08, 2020, 10:12:27 AM »
When we are discussing things like possible resistance and how the public, especially the rioting class might take outcomes it's important to be specific.

Wiki says there approx 240,000,000 eligible voters in the US.  So of the people  that could have voted for him he got about 30%.

Less than 1/4 of the people in the US cast a vote for Trump.  You should factor that into any boogaloo planning.

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If the 140 million people in the US who didn't vote were to put the 180 million who did vote in the Grand Canyon, arm them with sporks, and let them settle their differences the old way, we could have world peace someday.

Instead we get to watch you guys shriek at each other over who is going to make the world miserable for the next 4 years...
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #526 on: November 08, 2020, 10:16:40 AM »

Less than 1/4 of the people in the US cast a vote for Trump.  You should factor that into any boogaloo planning.

Less than 1/100th of the population violently protested, rioted and looted, but they still, through intimidation, influenced the outcome of the election in their favor.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #527 on: November 08, 2020, 10:24:35 AM »
Less than 1/100th of the population violently protested, rioted and looted, but they still, through intimidation, influenced the outcome of the election in their favor.
Is there any evidence that worked in their favor? Biden might have received more votes if they stuck to actual peaceful protest.
In the moral, catatonic stupor America finds itself in today it is only disagreement we seek, and the more virulent that disagreement, the better.

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #528 on: November 08, 2020, 10:30:27 AM »
So when can we expect the first executive order on sporks?
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #529 on: November 08, 2020, 10:31:02 AM »
Biden might have received more votes if they stuck to actual peaceful protest.

Is there any evidence of that?

The rioters were able to get most of the MSM to portray them as "mostly peaceful" protestors, and the people who opposed them as racist deplorables and what have you. The MSM would not have sent nearly as many "journalists" to actual peaceful and boring protests.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #530 on: November 08, 2020, 11:11:14 AM »
Is there any evidence of that?
Not that I'm aware of, which is kinda why I asked.
The consensus around here before seemed to be that the unrest was turning off moderates and helping Trump overall.
I believe all the riots and looting have gained Trump votes, or at least kept some who might vote dem at home.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #531 on: November 08, 2020, 11:15:14 AM »
Not that I'm aware of, which is kinda why I asked.
The consensus around here before seemed to be that the unrest was turning off moderates and helping Trump overall.

And it appears I was wrong there, yes? Just like somehow Biden won when the nation had a sea of Trump yard signs and thousands attending Trump rallies while Biden rallies were ghost towns. That was certainly an indicator to me that Trump should win by a large margin.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #532 on: November 08, 2020, 11:56:49 AM »
And it appears I was wrong there, yes?
Not necessarily.
It's possible Biden was leading by 6 points going into the riots and they did hurt him, left him with a 3 point lead.
Trump losing doesn't do anything, at least to me, to prove that rioting helped Biden win. It may have just not hurt him enough.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #533 on: November 08, 2020, 12:30:25 PM »

I can only hope that the Squad keeps trying to force their pet policies through the Democratic party because it could result, as Spanberger notes, in the party being torn to shreds in 2022...

I think it was Hamlet who said, " 'Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished."
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #534 on: November 08, 2020, 06:07:43 PM »
So was Covid-19 an accidental release from Wuhan or was it the ultimate election interference.

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #535 on: November 08, 2020, 06:32:52 PM »
So was Covid-19 an accidental release from Wuhan or was it the ultimate election interference.

I have yet to be completely convinced that it wasn't released on purpose. I doubt we'll ever know now, since Hunter Biden will be making billion dollar deals with China (25% vig for dad!).
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #536 on: November 08, 2020, 06:37:00 PM »
^^^Q should be along shortly to give us the real scoop on the Wuhan flu.  Hint: they will all be rounded up in a series of daring midnight raids and sent to Gitmo.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #537 on: November 09, 2020, 08:59:55 AM »
My sister and brother-in-law have spent the last four years being virulent anti-Trumpers.  For instance, right after the 2016 election my BIL stormed into the house for a get-together and said anyone who voted for Trump was a moron and how it was stolen from Hillary, etc.  That kind of unifying behavior.

The past few days my sister has apparently been all over Facebook explaining how what America really needs is to come together in unity, have faith in the process, respect for the office of the presidency, and not fall for conspiracy theories about irregularities in the election.

As I don't have a Facebook account I'll have to be sure to tell her next time I see her how much I hope to follow her family's example in how to handle people we disagree with politically.

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #538 on: November 09, 2020, 09:10:39 AM »

As I don't have a Facebook account I'll have to be sure to tell her next time I see her how much I hope to follow her family's example in how to handle people we disagree with politically.

I'm just looking forward to the unity of Cocaine Mitch ripping up 46's first state of the union address on live TV.
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #539 on: November 09, 2020, 10:48:14 AM »
I'm just looking forward to the unity of Cocaine Mitch ripping up 46's first state of the union address on live TV.

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #540 on: November 09, 2020, 11:34:34 AM »

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #541 on: November 09, 2020, 11:40:34 AM »
The media saved us, everyone!!!! Unity!!!

Holy hell. If anything nudges me into civil war mode, it's crap like this.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/11/09/wapos-margaret-sullivan-explains-how-despite-everything-trump-put-them-through-the-media-still-might-have-saved-democracy/
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #542 on: November 09, 2020, 11:42:58 AM »
The media saved us, everyone!!!! Unity!!!

Holy hell. If anything nudges me into civil war mode, it's crap like this.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/11/09/wapos-margaret-sullivan-explains-how-despite-everything-trump-put-them-through-the-media-still-might-have-saved-democracy/

Like saying Hitler saved the Jews
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #543 on: November 09, 2020, 11:55:06 AM »
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #544 on: November 09, 2020, 12:20:24 PM »
The media saved us, everyone!!!! Unity!!!

Holy hell. If anything nudges me into civil war mode, it's crap like this.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/11/09/wapos-margaret-sullivan-explains-how-despite-everything-trump-put-them-through-the-media-still-might-have-saved-democracy/

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #545 on: November 09, 2020, 02:52:37 PM »
Man, these people cry whether they win or lose.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1325563615022288896
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #546 on: November 09, 2020, 03:04:16 PM »
How many days to Joe's Nobel Peace Prize?
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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #547 on: November 09, 2020, 03:30:40 PM »
Man, these people cry whether they win or lose.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1325563615022288896

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #548 on: November 09, 2020, 05:30:54 PM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: Who will win in 2020?
« Reply #549 on: November 09, 2020, 05:34:44 PM »
Interesting. It appears the dems have to impeach Biden on his first day:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/11/09/wait-what-ben-rhodes-says-foreign-leaders-are-already-having-phone-calls-with-joe-biden-about-policy/

Silly Ben.  It's only a Logan Act violation when Republicans do it.
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