The 2024 Circus

[Northwoods]

I don't see Trump not being allowed on the ballot in any state, unless he is found guilty of sedition. I think the start of that trial is in March 2024, which is in the middle of primary/caucus season.

I'm tired of living in interesting times.

He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.

[WLJ]

He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.

Dems: Even more reason to pack the court

[charby]

He would appeal any decision directly to scotus most likely.

I would expect any candidate to do so.

[WLJ]

Some are saying he is going to run for pres

Breaking: West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin NOT Running for Re-Election
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/11/09/manchin-not-running-for-re-election-n2389617

[Northwoods]

Some are saying he is going to run for pres

Breaking: West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin NOT Running for Re-Election
https://twitchy.com/coucy/2023/11/09/manchin-not-running-for-re-election-n2389617

More like he knows his goose is cooked as a D in WV.

[dogmush]

From the second debate:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f7UULUiMluU

 

[WLJ]

Guess you'll have to wait on President Rock, says he ain't running.........maybe

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson says political parties approached him to run for president: 'One after the other'
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/dwayne-rock-johnson-says-political-parties-approached-run-president-one-other

[Angel Eyes]

A gentle reminder:

[WLJ]

Tim Scott is out

[WLJ]

J6 Buffaloman running for congress

QAnon Shaman Files for 2024 Congressional Bid and LOOOOOL, Lefites are Melting Down AND Freaking TF Out
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/13/qanon-shaman-files-for-24-congressional-bid-n2389727

Does this make it now The 2024 Zoo?

[Perd Hapley]

I hate to upset any DeSantis fans, but his campaign is over. Turns out, he supported Mitt Romney.

In 2005.

Read the shocking truth here:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/desantis-romney-fought-us-unearthed-yearbook-photo-shows/story?id=104882433

[Ben]

Well, she was the second place darling for a while, anyway.

NEW - Nikki Haley: "Every person on social media should be verified by their name" because of "national security."

https://twitchy.com/gordon-k/2023/11/14/breaking-nikki-haley-just-lost-the-very-online-vote-n2389810

[WLJ]

Minnesota Supreme Court: Trump can remain on the ballot — for now
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/08/minnesota-supreme-court-trump-ballot-00126210

And now Michigan

Trump to remain on Michigan ballot after judge rejects 14th Amendment challenge to eligibility
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-remain-michigan-ballot-judge-rejects-14th-amendment-challenge-eligibility

[Ben]

As with every presidential election, I completely got the lineup wrong. I just saw a poll (I didn't catch by whom) flash on the Fox Business. I am just flabbergasted that DeSantis is at 9% and Christie...CHRISTIE is at 14%. I mean, I got Trump right, but only because I expected lots of people would back him simply because of the Banana Republic attacks against him.

Otherwise, I really expected this to be a neck and neck between DeSantis and Trump.

EDIT: It appears what I saw was the latest New Hampshire poll. Other national polls have Christie much lower and DeSantis higher, but nowhere near Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/republican_nomination_polls/#!

[RoadKingLarry]

Just remember, these are essentially the same pollsters that were telling us Hillary was going to win in an historic landslide.

[Perd Hapley]

DJ uses Trump speech as his set intro at frat party:

https://youtube.com/shorts/bLnrbWGThXA?si=4qV8DhN3eo7hHsTu

[WLJ]

 

BLM leader endorses Trump for 2024, accuses Dems of 'racist' policies: 'We're not stupid'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/blm-leader-calls-democrats-racist-policies-endorses-trump-2024-stupid

Someone in BLM pops him in 10,9,8,7.......

But hopefully this is a sign they're realizing the dems have been using them

[WLJ]

Democrats Nominate Fallen National Christmas Tree For Presidential Run
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-nominate-national-christmas-tree-for-presidential-run

[MechAg94]

As with every presidential election, I completely got the lineup wrong. I just saw a poll (I didn't catch by whom) flash on the Fox Business. I am just flabbergasted that DeSantis is at 9% and Christie...CHRISTIE is at 14%. I mean, I got Trump right, but only because I expected lots of people would back him simply because of the Banana Republic attacks against him.

Otherwise, I really expected this to be a neck and neck between DeSantis and Trump.

EDIT: It appears what I saw was the latest New Hampshire poll. Other national polls have Christie much lower and DeSantis higher, but nowhere near Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/republican_nomination_polls/#!

I think we have talked about it, but I think DeSantis has some bad campaign advisors or something.  I think he made the mistake of almost immediately attacking Trump and generally did poorly at the start and in the first debate.  He sounded much better in the last one, but still not near as good as Vivek.  I think Vivek has done what suggested.  Refusing to criticize Trump for the most part and running as the outside candidate-most-like-Trump. 

There was a debate between DeSantis and the Cali dude last night, but I didn't watch it. 

[WLJ]

And add to that how the media vilifies DeSantis 24/7 and portrays FL as a horror states where gays and blacks are hunted down and books are banned, that's bound to have an effect in the polls.

[Perd Hapley]

I think we have talked about it, but I think DeSantis has some bad campaign advisors or something.  I think he made the mistake of almost immediately attacking Trump...

No, not at all. Trump attacked and slandered Ron "Desanctimonious" for months, while DeSantis mainly just shrugged it off. That was probably the right call, but Trump's violation of the 11th commandment probably has as much to do with DeSantis's current poll numbers as anything else.

[dogmush]

Correctly or not, Trump clearly feels betrayed by DeSantis' run in a way he doesn't for the candidates that he was less influential in their careers.

Add to that that DeSantis is the clear second place, and yeah, he's going to get the full Trump.  I seem to remember Trump coming hard at the other R's in the 2016 primary as well.  He had little nicknames for the top three or four.

If Trump doesn't give you a mean nickname, it means he doesn't think you are really an opponent.

[Pb]

The media gives massive amounts of airtime to Trump, and mostly ignores GOP candidates who aren't jackasses.

Trump is very good at publicity.

The government is persecuting Trump for (mostly) corrupt reasons, making him appear as a (mostly) blameless victim.

Right wing voters are getting more culturally corrupt, like the country as a whole.

I think those are the reasons the GOP is stupidly picking him again, over someone more competent.

[Perd Hapley]

Correctly or not, Trump clearly feels betrayed by DeSantis' run in a way he doesn't for the candidates that he was less influential in their careers.

Add to that that DeSantis is the clear second place, and yeah, he's going to get the full Trump.  I seem to remember Trump coming hard at the other R's in the 2016 primary as well.  He had little nicknames for the top three or four.

If Trump doesn't give you a mean nickname, it means he doesn't think you are really an opponent.

I guess that's a response to my post. (?)

I doubt Trump feels any more betrayed by DeSantis than, say, Pence or Haley. Obviously, anyone opposing Trump is going to get Trumped, especially when he's the runner-up.

This isn't just a Trump problem. Republicans have had this problem for years. Maybe it's worse on our side because Legacy Media is more willing to air it out.

[WLJ]

Not the Babylon Bee

    JUST IN - Liz Cheney is considering a third-party presidential bid "to stop Trump from winning" in 2024 — Axios pic.twitter.com/6oNGE3AncR
    — Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 5, 2023

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/05/liz-cheney-considering-running-third-party-to-stop-trump-n2390506

She actually thinks she would be pulling votes away from Trump.