Seems the Judge is iffy even with the "right" ammo...

[Gowen]

Revolvers? Their automatics are supposed to be pretty good, aside from their Beretta 21 copies (which don't always work that well for Beretta, either).

My carry is a PT 27/7 Millennium 140.  I've never had a jam and I keep a decent pattern in a target. I don't own a Judge.  I need a revolver, but I want one that is carry friendly, the Judge isn't.  I have no problem with bashing a gun for it's failures, but don't bash the owners.  Everyone has had buyers regret, they will either learn or eat their BBQed sparrow.

[seeker_two]

Says the guy who probably has never owned a Taurus!  Have you? 

1. PT 908 (the SIG-looking 9mm)....nice concept for the time, but shot patterns with 115gr ammo. Had to use 147gr ammo to get anything close to a group. Had to send it back once to replace the extractor spring.....back in the day when Taurus Customer Service was actually good.....

2. M94 .22lr....this is an older model I bought used. Needs the rear sight replaced, but a pretty good nine-gun.

The models that Taurus has been making for 10+ years (85, 605, PT92, 94, etc.) tend to be pretty bug-free. It's the newer stuff that seems to cause the most problems, based on numerous posts on numerous boards. I'm also disgusted that Taurus uses its customers for QC instead of doing it in the factory.  I'd pretty much recommend...

1. Don't buy a Taurus model unless it's been in production more than five years.

2. Don't count on Taurus to make it right. If your local gunsmith can't fix it, sell it ASAP.

[GigaBuist]

My carry is a PT 27/7 Millennium 140.  I've never had a jam and I keep a decent pattern in a target.

What would you estimate the total round count to be through the gun?  Generally speaking when I see that somebody has NEVER had a problem with a gun that just means their round count is low.

If you shoot a semi-auto pistol long enough it will barf on you.  Hell, I had a Glock exhibit two FTFs in a match once.  Granted, it was dirty as a politician and drier than a popcorn fart, but it did barf.  Any gun that I have owned long enough and really put through the wringer has let me down a few times.

Pistols that I hardly ever shoot, like my S&W 1911SC, that's never jammed on me either.  But I know it will.  I just haven't put more than 500 rounds through the thing over the years.

My Taurus stuff?  No way in Hell am I getting through 200 rounds with either without a bobble.  Same goes for my Walther P22.  It will NEVER happen.

[GigaBuist]

Oh, a fun story that seems relevant.

About a year ago I'm in a client's office.  The president of the company comes in to chat with me.  Nice guy.  Another worker hands him a FedEx box that just arrived.  President looks at it, says, "What the heck is this thing from Miami?" and sets it on the desk.  About 10 minutes go by and he realizes, "Oh, that's my pistol back from repair!"

Well before he got that box open I said, "So, ya got a Taurus, eh?"

Yep.  PT-92, back from "repair" with a letter saying it works just fine.

[MillCreek]

I am waiting for the "Lunch Lady".

[roo_ster]

How about a blunderbuss called "The President" ?

 

Hmm, I would have sworn that name was taken by Taurus's small-bore compressed air gun.

[AJ Dual]

They're having problems importing the President. It seems if its domestic or imported is in question, and nobody can find the Form 6.

[seeker_two]

I am waiting for the "Lunch Lady".

Done...it even has the Ribber Grips....

http://www.noveltytoys.us/images/Potato%20Gun.jpg

[lee n. field]

Well before he got that box open I said, "So, ya got a Taurus, eh?"

Yep.  PT-92, back from "repair" with a letter saying it works just fine.

But, but.  The Taurus PT740 got 2011 NRA Handgun o' da year!

What distingrishes the PT740, however, is that should it fail to fire on the first try, the shooter needs only pu pull the trigger again for a second attempt -- a seldom--encountered needed (in guns that work) feature on a striker-fired pistol...

(Full disclosure -- my 605 works fine, upwards of a thousand rounds through it at this point.)

[birdman]

My Taurus stuff?  No way in Hell am I getting through 200 rounds with either without a bobble.  Same goes for my Walther P22.  It will NEVER happen.

My p22 is unstoppable, once I started feeding it only blazer, I started an experiment of how many rounds until I get a jam (without cleaning, at all)...I'm at 500 rounds, zero jams, FTF, or malfunctions (p22 with a gemtech can).  What ammo are you using? If I use anything other than CCI blazer, the thing FTF's or jams every 20-30rnds.  And that test included some serious abuse (10 magazines, as fast as I could pull the trigger) tests.

[Boomhauer]

But, but.  The Taurus PT740 got 2011 NRA Handgun o' da year!

When was the last year Taurus didn't win a "Handgun of the Year" option. Honestly, if you are reading NRA mags (or hell, most any gun rag) for gun and accessory advice...you're barking up the wrong tree...

[GigaBuist]

  What ammo are you using? If I use anything other than CCI blazer, the thing FTF's or jams every 20-30rnds.

Remington Golden Bullets mostly which I know is part of the problem, but I tend to think a .22LR plinker should be able to consume any ammo that's in spec. 

[lee n. field]

When was the last year Taurus didn't win a "Handgun of the Year" option. Honestly, if you are reading NRA mags (or hell, most any gun rag) for gun and accessory advice...you're barking up the wrong tree...

A gunforum FAQ -- what magazine to get?  (Handloader.  And that's about it.)

I still chuckle at remembering Am. Rifleman's first (there've been more than one) feature article on the Judge.  The first two pages featured a huge blowup photo of the back of the cylinder.  The nasty machining of the pawls (typical of Taurus revolvers) was so obvious that my wife (neither mechanically inclined, nor any way shape or form of gunny) remarked on it.

[birdman]

Remington Golden Bullets mostly which I know is part of the problem, but I tend to think a .22LR plinker should be able to consume any ammo that's in spec. 

I tried those, it hated them.  After some googling I found out the p22 is quite particular, and the factory does their testing with the cci blazer.  I switched, and never looked back, I recommend trying it, you will be amazed!

[Pharmacology]

When was the last year Taurus didn't win a "Handgun of the Year" option. Honestly, if you are reading NRA mags (or hell, most any gun rag) for gun and accessory advice...you're barking up the wrong tree...

>handgun magazine has a different opinion than I do.
>they're being paid off by the gun manufacturer.


How do I cognitive dissonance?

[PTK]

A gunforum FAQ -- what magazine to get?  (Handloader.  And that's about it.)

I still chuckle at remembering Am. Rifleman's first (there've been more than one) feature article on the Judge.  The first two pages featured a huge blowup photo of the back of the cylinder.  The nasty machining of the pawls (typical of Taurus revolvers) was so obvious that my wife (neither mechanically inclined, nor any way shape or form of gunny) remarked on it.

Shockingly, the Judge I have is extraordinarily well finished. I figure I either got lucky or they finally wised up to proper surface finish.

[Gowen]

What would you estimate the total round count to be through the gun?  Generally speaking when I see that somebody has NEVER had a problem with a gun that just means their round count is low.

If you shoot a semi-auto pistol long enough it will barf on you.  Hell, I had a Glock exhibit two FTFs in a match once.  Granted, it was dirty as a politician and drier than a popcorn fart, but it did barf.  Any gun that I have owned long enough and really put through the wringer has let me down a few times.

Pistols that I hardly ever shoot, like my S&W 1911SC, that's never jammed on me either.  But I know it will.  I just haven't put more than 500 rounds through the thing over the years.

My Taurus stuff?  No way in Hell am I getting through 200 rounds with either without a bobble.  Same goes for my Walther P22.  It will NEVER happen.

I got it second hand. I have put under a thousand, 500-700 maybe, with cheap Blazer ammo.