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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2008, 03:47:38 AM »
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Also, given your stated beliefs as a radical/revolutionary, you would have to swear falsely while taking the oath of citizenship

...your argument is that my belief that the Constitution should be enforced much more stringently than it currently is opposed to the oath to defend and uphold the Constitution?

Look, you supported Tancredo at one point, or so your sig says. You're almost as far "out there" as I am.
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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2008, 05:28:21 AM »
MB:

I'm not the person claiming radical/revolutionary creds.  I claim to take my oath of enlistment seriously and binding...and not something that I have been released from.

Also, identifying oneself with the FSP'ers in their current state is not a good sign, given their antics.

If your beliefs are in accord with the COTUS, then the r/r label does not apply.

I would take a good, hard look at both libertarianism and the principles embodied in the COTUS.  There are many points where they differ, the libertarian project being much more utopian and less grounded in human nature.

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2008, 07:36:56 PM »
Eh, jfruser. You're now creating a really broad generalisation. Not everybody who wants radical/revolutionary change is a bomb-chucking anarchist.

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There are many points where they differ, the libertarian project being much more utopian and less grounded in human nature.

That's rather an opinion.

I would argue that a society generally guided by the values of classical liberalism/libertarianism is possible to achieve without violating the Constitution. Note that a society that abides 100% by the views of any kind of ideology is utopian and not grounded in human nature.
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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2008, 07:51:41 PM »

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nd even boast that they had to sell their stuff to afford to move here for the "project".

You generally need to sell your house to move to a new one.

House? House. That's funny. No, most of the ones who cause trouble here are couch-surfers, and one of the most annoying rabble rousers has a slum apartment in the bad part of Manchester. With, apparently, a doormat that says "Come back with a warrant".

Charming bunch.


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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2008, 07:55:07 PM »
What's wrong with "Come back with a warrant"?

Mind, the FSP members I correspond with own actual houses (as opposed to appartments), and wear ties.

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #80 on: May 05, 2008, 08:03:35 PM »
Uh. No. The ones here are rather unkempt and they wear RON PAUL shirts any time they've been in the media.

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #81 on: May 05, 2008, 08:10:14 PM »
Uh. No. The ones here are rather unkempt and they wear RON PAUL shirts any time they've been in the media.

Well clearly you don't know all of them. Yay sweeping generalization.

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And you still haven"t answered me - what's wrong with "Come back with a warrant?"
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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2008, 03:18:05 AM »
MW may not know all of them, but he has (according to his posts) actually seen/met a number of them in meat-space.

It does appear that your faith in the FSPers is unshakable in the face of eyewitness reports on their antics.

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"Come back with a warrant" door mats are the paranoid substitute for pink flamingos and garden gnomes.  IOW, a sign of poor taste.

Perhaps a better analogy would be that they are the residential equivalent of, "My kid beat up your honor student" bumper stickers, a declaration of white trashiness.

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2008, 05:01:45 AM »
MW may not know all of them, but he has (according to his posts) actually seen/met a number of them in meat-space.

Well, I'm marrying one soon if it helps.

I believe I've posted on my fiancee here before.

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It does appear that your faith in the FSPers is unshakable in the face of eyewitness reports on their antics.

I just don't see a lot of these things as 'bad'. I don't see couch-surfing as wrong and immoral. I don't see civil disobedience as wrong and immoral, as long as it is nonviolent. Giving Brown guns was bad, but most people FSPers were not, in fact, involved.

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"Come back with a warrant" door mats are the paranoid substitute for pink flamingos and garden gnomes.  IOW, a sign of poor taste.

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2008, 05:29:35 AM »
So how the hell did we go from Peak Oil to Free State Project?

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Re: Will Peak Oil be the next "Global Warming" farse?
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2008, 09:41:40 AM »
So how the hell did we go from Peak Oil to Free State Project?

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