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WaPo story, requires registration, apparently. So someone sent the mayor a box of pot, police waited to see if he'd take it inside, and that justified a no-knock raid in which they shot his two labradors.

Gee, if you wanted to destroy a public figure by causing a no-knock raid...nahhhhh...

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Police Raid Berwyn Heights Mayor's Home, Kill His 2 Dogs
By Aaron C. Davis
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 31, 2008; Page B01

A police SWAT team raided the home of the mayor in the Prince George's County town of Berwyn Heights on Tuesday, shooting and killing his two dogs, after he brought in a 32-pound package of marijuana that had been delivered to his doorstep, police said.

Mayor Cheye Calvo was not arrested in the raid, which was carried out about 7 p.m. by the Sheriff's Office SWAT team and county police narcotics officers. Prince George's police spokesman Henry Tippett said yesterday that all the residents of the house -- Calvo, his wife and his mother-in-law -- are "persons of interest" in the case.

The package was addressed to Calvo's wife, Trinity Tomsic, said law enforcement officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is ongoing.

Tippett said police are working to determine for whom the drugs were meant.

Calvo said yesterday that he did not know how the drugs wound up on his doorstep. He works part time as the mayor and serves as director of expansion for the SEED Foundation, a well-known national nonprofit group that runs urban public boarding schools.


"My government blew through my doors and killed my dogs," Calvo said. "They thought we were drug dealers, and we were treated as such. I don't think they really ever considered that we weren't."

Calvo described a chaotic scene, in which he -- wearing only underwear and socks -- and his mother-in-law were handcuffed and interrogated for hours. They were surrounded by the dogs' carcasses and pools of the dogs' blood, Calvo said.

Spokesmen for the Sheriff's Office and Prince George's police expressed regret yesterday that the mayor's dogs were killed. But they defended the way the raid was carried out, saying it was proper for a case involving such a large amount of drugs.

Sgt. Mario Ellis, a Sheriff's Office spokesman, said the deputies who entered Calvo's home "apparently felt threatened" by the dogs.

"We're not in the habit of going to homes and shooting peoples' dogs," Ellis said. "If we were, there would be a lot more dead dogs around the county."

Calvo, 37, has been mayor of the 3,000-person town near College Park since 2004. His wife is a finance officer for the state, he said.

The investigation that led police to their house in the 8500 block of Edmonston Road began in Arizona, officials said. There, a police dog at a shipping facility identified the package as being filled with marijuana. Prince George's officers posed as deliverymen and brought it to Calvo's home.

Calvo said he came home early from work Tuesday. While walking the dogs, Calvo said, he noticed several black sport-utility vehicles and a woman parked in a car down the street.

"I figured someone was having a party," he recalled.

It was the police. They were watching, waiting for someone to bring the package into the house.

As Calvo returned to the house, he said, he spotted the large package that his mother-in-law had told a deliveryman to leave on the porch. He placed it on a buffet table near the front door and went upstairs to change.

"I brought it inside because I figured it was something we'd gotten for the garden," he said.

Moments later, just after he had undressed, Calvo said, he heard his mother-in-law scream that someone was coming toward the house. He looked out his bedroom window and saw officers in SWAT gear running across the lawn.

"I heard a loud crash and then 'bang, bang, bang,' " he said, recalling the sounds of the police shooting the dogs. "I hit the floor."

As the police came in, Calvo said, they shot his 7-year-old black Labrador retriever, Payton, near the front door and then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room. Walking through his house yesterday, Calvo pointed out a bullet hole in the drywall where the younger dog had been shot.

"I understand they have a job to do, but it didn't have to go like that," Calvo said. He said the police could have knocked on his door and asked him about the package. "I've never done drugs in my life. Anyone who knows me knows that I am so adamantly opposed to them."

Police said yesterday that, when they seized the package during the raid, it was unopened.

Berwyn Heights Police Chief Patrick Murphy said county police and the Sheriff's Office had not notified his department of the raid. He said town police could have conducted the search without a SWAT team.

"You can't tell me the chief of police of a municipality wouldn't have been able to knock on the door of the mayor of that municipality, gain his confidence and enter the residence," Murphy said. "It would not have been a necessity to shoot and kill this man's dogs."

"We're not in the habit of going to homes and shooting peoples' dogs," Ellis said. "If we were, there would be a lot more dead dogs around the county."

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...then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room.

Bravely shooting fleeing dogs is just collateral damage in the Holy Jihad on Drugs.

I wonder if these fine protectors of the common good had the good sense to OPEN the package that their dog hit on and confirm that it was indeed loaded with 32 pounds of dried plant matter, or if they just took the dogs actions on faith?
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...then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room.

Bravely shooting fleeing dogs is just collateral damage in the Holy Jihad on Drugs.

I wonder if these fine protectors of the common good had the good sense to OPEN the package that their dog hit on and confirm that it was indeed loaded with 32 pounds of dried plant matter, or if they just took the dogs actions on faith?

Either way, what sort of strategy is that?

1. Detect drugs in package across the country.
2. Bring package to house with agents, leave outside.
3. Wait to see if guy takes it inside.
4. TACTICAL NINJA TIME HUT HUT HUT HUT *BANGBANGBANGBANG*

Why didn't they just question him?

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what is it with cops shooting dogs lately? is it something they started teaching as a valid police tactic in police school in the last few years?

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No mention of a warrant . . . I guess they figured that dropping a package off on a guy's porch means "automatic probable cause for a dynamic entry" when he brings it inside.

I guess that's what's called innovative policing.
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doesn't the ATF also have a thing about dogs?

i recall reading a artical in a gun rag about atf agents on a raid stomping a chiuiaia (damn spell check) to death..... this was many many years ago.
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I've heard (tm) many drug dealers keep vicious dogs in their homes.  This could be why DE cops are a bit more aggressive with any dog in a drug bust situation.  Too aggressive in this case.
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You're confusing cats and dogs BSL. A female F-trooper stomped a kitten to death a few years back.

Who knows tho, maybe someone also stomped one of those little urine sponge yip dogs.
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You're confusing cats and dogs BSL. A female F-trooper stomped a kitten to death a few years back.

Who knows tho, maybe someone also stomped one of those little urine sponge yip dogs.

i think i was like 13 or 14 when i read that article, so much more then a few years. however stomping a kitten to death is about what i expect from atf.
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i recall reading a artical in a gun rag about atf agents on a raid stomping a chiuiaia (damn spell check) to death..... this was many many years ago.

That was a Manx kitten (not that it being a toy dog would make the crime any less heinous) stomped by a badge wearing thug.

http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/lamplugh.html

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I've heard (tm) many drug dealers keep vicious dogs in their homes.

All too often it seems that in the eyes of some who wear badges, a dog that stands off and barks at intruders is vicious and warrants shooting.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4208/is_19950225/ai_n10186656

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/nopd_officer_shoots_pet_doberm.html

http://gunnygcops.wetpaint.com/page/COPS+SHOOT+FAMILY+DOG!?t=anon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819436/posts

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299_pf.html
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All too often it seems that in the eyes of some who wear badges, a dog that stands off and barks at intruders is vicious and warrants shooting.

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As the police came in, Calvo said, they shot his 7-year-old black Labrador retriever, Payton, near the front door and then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room.

Can't let it escape, I guess...?

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doesn't the ATF also have a thing about dogs?

Yes.
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Why would they go to all that trouble?  Doesn't the Patriot Act say they can just no-knock anybody they want, and charge them with terrorism?  rolleyes   Would have been so much easier. 
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As the police came in, Calvo said, they shot his 7-year-old black Labrador retriever, Payton, near the front door and then his 4-year-old dog, Chase, also a black Lab, as the dog ran into a back room.
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Can't let it escape, I guess...?

The dog could have been trained to drag off and flush the 32lb package of MJ down the toilet.

I'm thinking that certain SWATties need to have blood-soaked sponges tossed in their back yards.  And then a good tarring & feathering.  Black feathers, though, 'cause they are more tacticool.
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But fistful, if the cops did THAT people would start to catch on and start to think that Ms. Wolfe'sMs. Wolfe's observation about the state of affairs is no longer applicable.  Can't have that now, can we?  And with some dried up plant matter in the question the populace will be more inclined to support the brave actions of our "peace officers" and might even give them a medal.
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The investigation that led police to their house in the 8500 block of Edmonston Road began in Arizona, officials said. There, a police dog at a shipping facility identified the package as being filled with marijuana.


Something is definitely fishy about this.  Drugs, especially in that quantity, aren't shipped through the USPS, UPS, FedEx etc., for the exact reason quoted above.

Legitimate raid or not, given the information we have, it seems the cops WAAAY overreacted.  Despite my opposition to the WoSD, I might understand if it was a known drug house occupied by criminals with a record of violence, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I don't do anything illegal, and would be less than happy if this happened to me and my beloved pets.  It's probably best if I shut up now.  angry

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The investigation that led police to their house in the 8500 block of Edmonston Road began in Arizona, officials said. There, a police dog at a shipping facility identified the package as being filled with marijuana.


Something is definitely fishy about this.  Drugs, especially in that quantity, aren't shipped through the USPS, UPS, FedEx etc., for the exact reason quoted above.

Legitimate raid or not, given the information we have, it seems the cops WAAAY overreacted.  Despite my opposition to the WoSD, I might understand if it was a known drug house occupied by criminals with a record of violence, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I don't do anything illegal, and would be less than happy if this happened to me and my beloved pets.  It's probably best if I shut up now.  angry

Actually idiots try to send drugs though the mail all the time.

http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/ar02/ar02_07.htm

http://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/radDocs/pubs/ar01_05.pdf

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Just gives me one more reason when I finally build my own house to build it right.
By right I mean If you don't have a key your not getting in. (or a howitzer)
I'm thinking all the 1st floor windows need to be laminate glass and the door need a 1/4 inch j alloy plate core.
I could build the door but might need help with the windows.
Oh and masonry construction.

If someone wants in I'll have to approve of it first.
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Just gives me one more reason when I finally build my own house to build it right.
By right I mean If you don't have a key your not getting in. (or a howitzer)
I'm thinking all the 1st floor windows need to be laminate glass and the door need a 1/4 inch j alloy plate core.
I could build the door but might need help with the windows.
Oh and masonry construction.

If someone wants in I'll have to approve of it first.

And flashbangs through the second floor windows?

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And flashbangs through the second floor windows?

ok laminate glass up there also.
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If more Cops were killed or injured, maybe they'd re think this idiotic strategy.   angry

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Naw, SWAT can take the time to study how best to breech your house, just not to see if you actually present a threat. With the rise in explosive breeching capabilities on SWAT teams, all that'll do is mean having to rebuild your house after they blow an enormous hole in the wall vis just kicking the door in.

If more Cops were killed or injured, maybe they'd re think this idiotic strategy.   angry

Nope, they'd just go with the FBI model of flushing em out with fire.....
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Just gives me one more reason when I finally build my own house to build it right.

Something like this would be about right:

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