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Ok all you pilots...
« on: January 24, 2010, 03:10:32 PM »
here's a landing for you  :O

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Read the article first then watch the video.

For those who want to fly to London City Airport, a cross wind adds to
The excitement (in addition to the short runway and steep approach).
The airport itself is located on the river Thames in downtown London ,
And gives business people very quick access to the city. The
Millennium Dome is in the left side of the picture."

"The runway is only 1199 meters long, which is very short in airline
Runway terms, thus it is only suitable for aircraft with good STOL
(short take-off and landing) performance. It also has a 5.5 degree
Glide slope, as opposed to the conventional 3 degree slope to most
Runways. The BAE 146 is the main jet type to operate into the place.
Most other aircraft are turbo props etc."

"When doing the approach you have to be fully configured, I.e., gear
Down, full flaps and speed brakes before you commence descent from
3000 feet...or you won't get stopped before reaching the far end of
The runway. If it doesn't look or feel right it is generally a good
Idea to give it away and have another attempt. For whatever reason,
This flight crew decided to press, but they DID make the first turn
Off the runway. If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
The BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirt bike!"

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 03:52:24 PM »
"If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness dedication of
the BAE 146 airframe their mechanics. The pilots handled treated
it like a dirt bike! Top Gear loons with an Isetta."

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 04:09:36 PM »
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 04:26:33 PM »
Jiminy Christmas!  Do their seats have any fabric left or has it all been torn a way and carried off, clenched in the butt cheeks of the passengers?

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »
I think I would have bricked it, were I on board!
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 04:52:24 PM »
"Did we land or were we shot down ?"
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 05:15:49 PM »
If nothing else, it's a testament to the toughness of
The BAE 146 airframe. The pilots handled it like a dirt bike!"

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2C9QcgYjA

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Those poor, poor mechanics.   Gods alone know how many hours they're gonna have to spend getting that airframe fixed.
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 05:18:42 PM »
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Those poor, poor mechanics.   Gods alone know how many hours they're gonna have to spend getting that airframe fixed.
THANK YOU!  :P
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 05:22:18 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE_5eiYn0D0&NR=1&feature=fvwp

This is a computer reenactment of the Hudson river landing.
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 05:22:47 PM »
Here are a few more on Youtube

A Boeing 747 being "enlightened" on takeoff.
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 05:25:20 PM »
THANK YOU!  :P

Oy, *I* am paid to support you guys.  You happy = Me slightly less angry and pissed off. 

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 06:05:07 PM »
Any landing you can walk away from, I guess.

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2010, 08:14:04 PM »
Ouch!
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2010, 08:39:41 PM »
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 08:54:31 PM »
That's it, no more flying for me...  :O

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 09:58:29 PM »
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Speaking of A320  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDVq2gGgaA&feature=related

Ahem. Main gear that crabs for crosswind landings.

Courtesy of Boeing, circa 1958.   =D
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 03:39:44 PM »
[start smug] Today in Boston, the wind was from 180 (South) at 25 gusting to 40 knots. I rolled-on the landing on 22R. Yeah, baby! [/horn tooting]
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 10:12:53 PM »
Ok, let me get this straight,,, WHAT did you do?  ???

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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 10:38:59 PM »
[start smug] Today in Boston, the wind was from 180 (South) at 25 gusting to 40 knots. I rolled-on the landing on 22R. Yeah, baby! [/horn tooting]
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Runway designations are in the direction they point, dropping the last digit. So 22R points within 10 degrees to heading 220, which is basically southwest.  He probably crabbed/sideslipped a bit to keep straight while landing.

I'm only a wannabe pilot so far, I have not completed all my hours due to life constantly requiring the money I keep saving up to try and finish.

Let me submit my favorite crosswind landing attempt in an Airbus A320: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/010054.html

Hey, A320, have you ever had to abort a hairy landing like that?  How common is it for commercial pilots to abort a landing like that?

I know I've only done a crosswind landing successfully once, for whatever that's worth.
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2010, 08:04:46 AM »
Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again!  :O

So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2010, 08:20:50 AM »
Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again!  :O

So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?

A good pilot will actually straighten the aircraft out as the upwind wheel touches down.  Awesome feat of timing.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 08:59:34 AM »
...and sphincter control=D
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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2010, 10:09:47 AM »
Sad part is, now he has to go around and try it again!  :O

So what do you guys do, straighten it out just before you hit the runway?



A) Better to go around and try again if you have the chance. I've aborted many a landing because it just wasn't "right".

B) Yes. Although some aircraft, particularly airliners, have crosswind capable landing gear that will point straight down the runway while the plane lands in a crab. Freaky looking, but cool.

If you are prepared and have everything set up well, a crosswind landing is not as bad as they are made out to be (but gusting is still a bit tricky). If your *expletive deleted*it ain't straight and you are in a hurry or behind the airplane, then that crosswind is going to bite you in the ass.


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Re: Ok all you pilots...
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2010, 10:21:26 AM »
Ok, let me get this straight,,, WHAT did you do?  ???

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I made a nice, soft landing in semi-tough conditions. "Rolled it on," means I landed so gently that the only way I could tell we touched down was by feeling the wheel spin-up as it "grabs" the pavement. Then the spoilers deploy and we settle fully onto the gear.

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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 10:26:23 AM »
A greaser.   =D

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