Bristol Palin Set To Talk Abstinence

[dogmush]

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Another thing that has students talking is the topic.  It's called "Bristol Palin and Panel: Abstinence in a College Setting." Bristol Palin never attended college.

The irony.  It amuses me.  That is all.

[TommyGunn]

DO AS I SAY.
NOT AS I DO.

[thebaldguy]

Tres amusing.

I think she has a future as a politician.

[RaspberrySurprise]

I imagine she can speak quite authoritatively on potential results of a lack of abstinence. Am I the only person that doesn't think that this isN'T hypocritical of her?

Edited because I'm an idiot and couldn't type out what I wanted too at the time.

[MicroBalrog]

Why would anybody care what Bristol Palin has to say? What is her claim to fame apart from "My Mom is Sarah Palin"?

[Jamisjockey]

I imagine she can speak quite authoritatively on potential results of a lack of abstinence. Am I the only person that doesn't think that this is hypocritical of her?

It's not lost on me, either.  When the guy who's missing a finger says "don't do that", I usually listen....

Why would anybody care what Bristol Palin has to say? What is her claim to fame apart from "My Mom is Sarah Palin"?

This is America, man! We don't have royalty, so we just worship political families and celebreties. 

[BlueStarLizzard]

This is America, man! We don't have royalty, so we just worship political families and celebreties. 

And the royalty of other contries...

The today show is counting down... 

[Pharmacology]

I imagine she can speak quite authoritatively on potential results of a lack of abstinence. Am I the only person that doesn't think that this is hypocritical of her?

Sure, young people can learn lots from her:

1.)Have an idiot impregnate you to get on TV

2.) Dance on a TV show

3.) rake in tons of money as a result of being an idiot with functioning genitalia.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

Sure, young people can learn lots from her:

1.)Have an idiot impregnate you to get on TV

2.) Dance on a TV show

3.) rake in tons of money as a result of being an idiot with functioning genitalia.

Heh. "If I had practiced abstinence, I would've just been the Palin kid with the normal name. Since I slept around, I've become famous. So... yeah. Sex outside marriage is bad, and couldn't possibly help you."

[RaspberrySurprise]

Heh. "If I had practiced abstinence, I would've just been the Palin kid with the normal name. Since I slept around, I've become famous. So... yeah. Sex outside marriage is bad, and couldn't possibly help you."

Those that are too dumb to realize that chances of having the same thing happen to them as happened to her (at least the beneficiary parts) are too dumb to understand that babies don't come from the stork anyways.

[Perd Hapley]

I imagine she can speak quite authoritatively on potential results of a lack of abstinence. Am I the only person that doesn't think that this is hypocritical of her?

No. If she's never been to college, then she would seem a little out of place, but not hypocritical.

[Pharmacology]

Those that are too dumb to realize that chances of having the same thing happen to them as happened to her (at least the beneficiary parts) are too dumb to understand that babies don't come from the stork anyways.

Some friends were discussing a show on MTV or something where teen parents are the topic, and how it's apparently catching flak because stupid teens are getting pregnant to attempt to get on the show.

One of my friends also mentioned that those kids on the show make a LOT of money.

[RaspberrySurprise]

Edited my original post to clarify that I intended to say that I didn't think her stumping for abstinence was hypocritical.

As Jamis said, you tend to listen to the guy missing fingers when it comes to explosives or sharp objects, so listening to someone with a kid about the consequences of sex does make sense.

Some friends were discussing a show on MTV or something where teen parents are the topic, and how it's apparently catching flak because stupid teens are getting pregnant to attempt to get on the show.

One of my friends also mentioned that those kids on the show make a LOT of money.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i know a guy who sucks at relationships.  in his life a relationship is using the same hooker enough that she'll take his checks.  he offers outstanding relationship advice based on his own experience at what does not work

[MicroBalrog]

It's not lost on me, either.  When the guy who's missing a finger says "don't do that", I usually listen....

Well, it's not that Bristol's life is HORRIBLY BROKEN. Because it, you know, isn't.

[gunsmith]

I like Bristol a lot more then I do Chelsea Clinton

[Perd Hapley]

Well, it's not that Bristol's life is HORRIBLY BROKEN. Because it, you know, isn't.

It helps if your mummy and daddy have money, and TV wants to throw money at you.

[De Selby]

The only method in history ever proven to have resulted in significant populations remaining abstinent is extreme gender segregation.

If you live in a place where men and women are allowed to mingle with any hope of privacy, abstinence is an empty word.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.  Yes, there will always be a few who brag about remaining abstinent before marriage for religious reasons (which is, today, the only reason for it)....but even amongst those there're sure to be a significant percentage who aren't telling the truth.

In my view, this is the sort of thing that belongs in church, where it makes some sense.  It makes no sense if you take religious principles out of the equation. 

[dogmush]

In my view, this is the sort of thing that belongs in church, where it makes some sense.  It makes no sense if you take religious principles out of the equation. 

I disagree.  Even amongst non religious folks there are significant emotional consequences to sex.  We're just wired that way.  espesially younger people. (<about 23) I am by no means a no sex till marriage guy, but looking back now I wish I had been a little more choosy about where and who I bedded.  I have no children and no diseases but I do have some memories of girls left in emotional carnage, as well as several years spent sorting out my own intamacy issues before I could grow as close to my wife as I now am.  All compleatly divorced from any religious views.

A frank discussion with young people that sex should probably wait till a strong emotional attachment forms (maybe not "marriage in a secular world, but commited monogamous relationship anyway) is probably a healthy thing for them.  Except they won't listen.


On the OP, I didn't call it hypocritical, I called it funny.  Bristol might have some useful things to say on the subject. (I doubt it from what little I've seen her talk, but she might)  But that doesn't take away from the funny of having a single mother high-school grad on a discussion panel about abstinence in a college setting.  Knowing the college students I do, I also find the odds of any student talking her seriously pretty low.

[De Selby]

I agree that sex has significant emotional implications - we are wired that way.  We're also wired to seek out partners and have sex.  In considering our regrets, we do also need to factor in that we live in a place where the abstinence & consequences messages are fairly constant.  Without those, you might not actually mind that much about your past, and some of the emotional carnage might not have been so bad.

I'd completely agree with you about education on sex and emotional attachment - but that's not abstinence education.  It would be more like a component of the "here's the biology, here's the technology" sex ed that's in public schools. 

[KD5NRH]

In my view, this is the sort of thing that belongs in church, where it makes some sense.

Jeez; people always looked at me like I was a bad person for doing that sort of thing in a church.

Oh...wait...you mean the sort of thing that involves refraining from that sort of thing...well...I did that in a church too.  Not by my choice, though.

[tyme]

It's not lost on me, either.  When the guy who's missing a finger says "don't do that", I usually listen....

Except in this case she was told "don't do that" before she did it, and she did it anyway.  I think there's a lesson there, but not the one you're implying.

[Pharmacology]

The human body releases all kinds of funny chemicals get released when you do it.
Teenagers have enough of those.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

It's not lost on me, either.  When the guy who's missing a finger says "don't do that", I usually listen....

Exactly.

Teens tend to think they're invincible.  They'll often ignore sound advice from adults, thinking it can't happen to them, that those adults don't know anything.  It's a lot harder to ignore this advice from one of your own, someone who demonstrably wasn't invincible.  

It reminds me of some folks I knew in high school.  There was a circle of friends who were into street racing motorcycles.  The adults warned them that what they were doing was dangerous, that they should be careful, that they shouldn't be racing high powered bikes.  They didn't listen.

Then one of 'em wrapped his face around a tree at high speed, earning himself a closed casket funeral. The rest of 'em gave up their bikes right quick.  They could have learned from the wisdom of the adults, but they didn't.  They DID learn from the experience of one of their own, one who discovered firsthand that he wasn't invincible.

[roo_ster]

Why would anybody care what Bristol Palin has to say? What is her claim to fame apart from "My Mom is Sarah Palin"?

Hellifiknow.

Seems to me her only real qualification is getting knocked up by a loser.  JJ makes a good point about listening to her on that basis, but there are puh-lenty of gals who are so qualified.

i know a guy who sucks at relationships.  in his life a relationship is using the same hooker enough that she'll take his checks.  he offers outstanding relationship advice based on his own experience at what does not work

Yet, he is wise enough to not put it on the credit card.


Instructions to abstain and/or put much thought before hopping in the sack, as well as a nice rundown of consequences is not something that is merely religious.  Atheist chicks can end up knocked up with baby-daddy nowhere to be found, too.  And atheist guys can have their wages garnished for 18+ years for knocking up a gal.

There are many non-religious reasons to keep this sort of behavior under control.