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Working on roofs
« on: March 17, 2012, 05:08:27 PM »
Particularly steep roofs.  Mine is either 10 in 12 or 12 in 12.

So APS, how is this done safely?  I have a number of projects that require I go up on the roof.  Techniques?  Gear?

Presumably roof jacks - but that doesn't help when I can't actually get on the roof to install said jacks.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 05:31:17 PM »
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 05:36:09 PM »
hows your spanish?

12 12 is walkable but thats my limit

10 12 is actually pretty good  don't have to bend over so far to work it


3 12 is a back ache
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 06:07:52 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 17, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
hows your spanish?

This.

I don't do roofs.  Or any heights for that matter.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 06:11:51 PM »
Tying off is the only way I'll work on a steep roof.

http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=14857


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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 06:32:06 PM »
Quote from: Avenger29 on March 17, 2012, 06:11:51 PM
Tying off is the only way I'll work on a steep roof.

http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=14857





yup and you can still get scuffed up pretty good even tied off. 
and hypothetically you can end up hanging off edge stuck   waiting for your damn helper to get back from lunch  [ar15]
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2012, 06:39:27 PM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 17, 2012, 06:32:06 PM

yup and you can still get scuffed up pretty good even tied off. 
and hypothetically you can end up hanging off edge stuck   waiting for your damn helper to get back from lunch  [ar15]

For some reason, that sounds like the voice of experience........    :laugh:
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2012, 06:58:39 PM »
you bugger the gutter pretty bad hanging over it on the rope too. had a knife was about 16-18 feet up  too far for a drop if i could avoid one.  especially with an open knife. it was humbling  my helper really enjoyed it
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 07:01:37 PM »
Video?  Or was that back in the days of yore?



A person can walk up a very steep roof with good shoes. Feels worse than it is.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 07:02:59 PM »
I take pride in doing everything myself. Roof work is the one thing I'd hire somebody for.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 07:03:25 PM »
two of these
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ladder+hooks&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10861686101730770312&sa=X&ei=CBhlT9iRCePs0gGRs6iDCA&ved=0CJIBEPMCMAE

you use em on the end of a ladder section to grab ridge  protects roof and roofer from damage. i'd ship you mine but shipping both ways you could buy em.
i only use em once in a while but they make me very happy when i do
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 07:04:17 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on March 17, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
Video?  Or was that back in the days of yore?



A person can walk up a very steep roof with good shoes. Feels worse than it is.

he was kind no video  he shoulda got some of the time i got arrested
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 07:22:04 PM »
Don't fall off.

I get paranoid when dad gets up on our roof, and it's mostly flat.  [tinfoil]

I have visions of the ladder going backwards and ambulances and the ER.

Pay someone else, or if you must do it yourself, have a spotter or someone within audible "HELP!"  range.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 10:09:20 PM »
Telephone
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Problem solved.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 10:22:26 PM »
Parts of my roof were 12/12 and of course metal. Hot in the sun, dusty=slick, and about 25 feet to packed gravel in front of the basement garage if you did it wrong. I tried not to go up there.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 07:13:49 AM »
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 07:55:25 AM »
A 12 12 pitch roof if a 45 degree angle, which would be a damned tough walk for anyone who's not familiar with working on a roof.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 08:10:16 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on March 17, 2012, 05:36:09 PM
hows your spanish?

12 12 is walkable but thats my limit

10 12 is actually pretty good  don't have to bend over so far to work it


3 12 is a back ache
12:12 is walkable?

My roof is 6-1/2:12 and I can just barely get up and down it without sliding off, and that's only if I wear shoes with very sticky soles. Anything steeper needs jacks. How can you walk 12:12?
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 09:16:22 AM »
I had a Salvadorian walk off my roof, lucky for him, he landed on my deck and only fell 14 feet.

There I am hanging in my living room watching the toddler and boom, there's a "siding guy" laying on my deck. The chinese foreman was gone and I have 6 guys that looked like they got picked up at home depot working on my job. We got him first aid, but I doubt he went to a hospital.

I had to yell, Ayuda! to get the attention of his co workers, they did not respond to English.

Up here in PA, the Yoders respond to German, but their extra fingers & toes keep them on the roof better.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 10:15:05 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on March 17, 2012, 10:09:20 PM
Telephone
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Problem solved.

This, or make damned sure you have supplemental insurance to cover keeping the family functioning while you swing in a full-body cast.

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Personally, I'd use a safety harness when climbing the 1-step thingy to reach the top cabinet shelf except that would involve getting high up enough to hook into the ceiling.  Congenital lack of balance makes changing lightbulbs "exciting".

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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 10:33:12 AM »
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3 12 is a back ache

And knees :(

That's why I try not to do roof work anymore, or at least get someone with an air nailer to help me so it goes faster.

Metal roofs are the way to go: much faster to install and usually done for your lifetime.

But getting back up there for something else is tricky if the pitch is over about 5/12
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 12:09:15 PM »
I just don't do it anymore.

As painful as it is, I hire it done.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 12:11:46 PM »
Roofing, like Sheetrock and tile, are some of the few things I'll contract out (after having done them)...
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 02:27:54 PM »
Well if I deal with metal roof again I has a plan. I bought a bunch of milled aluminum block clamps that locked over the standing seam and then had tapped holes to screw stuff to, in this case snow guards. A couple of strategically installed permanent ladders would make it easy to get to a chimney and if you're already at the ridge easier to install/move jacks or other anchors.
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Re: Working on roofs
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2012, 05:03:09 PM »
Quote from: 230RN on March 18, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
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