Author Topic: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB  (Read 78453 times)

Hutch

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,223
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #225 on: December 20, 2012, 10:00:48 PM »
I suspect the prices of firearms and magazines under consideration wil rise sharply, as they did in late '94.  I have found no online retailer that shows 9mm Gockazines in stock.  Botach doesn't count. (They lie)  I ordered anyway. I will report the outcome.
Well, will wonders never cease?  Just got notified by email that they're shipping all 18 magses.  I think I will have enough.  Oh yes.
"My limited experience does not permit me to appreciate the unquestionable wisdom of your decision"

Seems like every day, I'm forced to add to the list of people who can just kiss my hairy ass.

erictank

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,410
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #226 on: December 21, 2012, 05:24:13 AM »
Also, if you compare suicide rates vs gun ownership in multiple countries or regions, while there IS a positive correlation in firearm suicides (duh) there is little to no correlation with total suicides.

Yup - never seems to matter, those determined to kill themselves (those who often use firearms here in the US) seem to find some other way if they can't get guns.

Almost like it's not about the guns...

Scout26

  • I'm a leaf on the wind.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 25,997
  • I spent a week in that town one night....
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2012, 10:30:38 AM »
People forget that Columbine they had two Propane bombs that failed.   Had they worked there would have been a ban on Gas Grills.
Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


Bring me my Broadsword and a clear understanding.
Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
Take women and children and bed them down.
Bless with a hard heart those that stand with me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind.
Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on,
for the motherland.

Monkeyleg

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,589
  • Tattaglia is a pimp.
    • http://www.gunshopfinder.com
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #228 on: December 21, 2012, 10:57:31 AM »
People forget that Columbine they had two Propane bombs that failed.   Had they worked there would have been a ban on Gas Grills.

No, they still would have gone for an assault weapons ban, because you need an assault weapon to steal a gas grill.

kgbsquirrel

  • APS Photoshop God
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,466
  • Bill, slayer of threads.
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #229 on: December 21, 2012, 12:38:15 PM »
Quote
"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is an unwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege." [Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878)]

longeyes

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,405
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #230 on: December 21, 2012, 12:56:31 PM »
Assault is an action, not a weapon.

The irony is we the free have been under assault for at least fifty years.
"Domari nolo."

Thug: What you lookin' at old man?
Walt Kowalski: Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have messed with? That's me.

Molon Labe.

charby

  • Necromancer
  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 29,295
  • APS's Resident Sikh/Muslim
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #231 on: December 21, 2012, 02:29:49 PM »
Iowa- 88% more livable that the rest of the US

Uranus is a gas giant.

Team 444: Member# 536

lee n. field

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,624
  • tinpot megalomaniac, Paulbot, hardware goon
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #232 on: December 21, 2012, 03:19:40 PM »
In thy presence is fulness of joy.
At thy right hand pleasures for evermore.

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,506
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #233 on: December 21, 2012, 04:50:49 PM »
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

sanglant

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,475
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #234 on: December 21, 2012, 06:05:13 PM »
knee-jerk reaction to something you don't want to hear. [popcorn]


 =D :angel:

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,506
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #235 on: December 21, 2012, 10:21:56 PM »
This is the funniest thing.  :lol:  Do watch all the way to the end.

http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2012-12-18/who-is-funding-the-u-dot-s-dot-gun-market
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

AJ Dual

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,162
  • Shoe Ballistics Inc.
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #236 on: December 21, 2012, 11:12:24 PM »
This is the funniest thing.  :lol:  Do watch all the way to the end.

http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2012-12-18/who-is-funding-the-u-dot-s-dot-gun-market

I have to wonder if bow-tie has ever left NYC?
I promise not to duck.

Ben

  • Administrator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46,309
  • I'm an Extremist!
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #237 on: December 21, 2012, 11:21:50 PM »
I have to wonder if bow-tie has ever left NYC?

Or perhaps you mean Upper Manhattan, since he appears to think New York City is pretty crime free.
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

zxcvbob

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,279
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #238 on: January 31, 2013, 06:08:04 PM »
Both my dumbass senators cosponsored the Feinstein bill this week.  I was pretty sure Klobuchar would (she's a nanny-statist if there ever was one), but I hoped at least Franken would vote against it -- or at least not vote for it.

I've sent them both stern emails (again), this time just saying that I will be actively supporting whomever the Republicans run against them in 2018 and 2014, respectively, and why.  Doesn't matter that this bill has very little chance of passing, or that the country is facing much bigger problems than gun control.  It's a line-in-the-sand issue and they've voluntarily stepped over it big-time.
"It's good, though..."

AZRedhawk44

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,987
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #239 on: January 31, 2013, 06:21:55 PM »
This is the funniest thing.  :lol:  Do watch all the way to the end.

http://www.businessweek.com/videos/2012-12-18/who-is-funding-the-u-dot-s-dot-gun-market

Cerberus is getting out of guns?  When did this happen?  They're private equity and have no storefront.  They're practically untouchable by mobs of nagging sign carriers, and divorced from the actual firearms companies by about 2 levels of separation.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
--Lysander Spooner

I reject your authoritah!

agricola

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,248
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #240 on: January 31, 2013, 08:21:12 PM »
Cerberus is getting out of guns?  When did this happen?  They're private equity and have no storefront.  They're practically untouchable by mobs of nagging sign carriers, and divorced from the actual firearms companies by about 2 levels of separation.

That Illusive Man is mighty cunning!
"Idiot!  A long life eating mush is best."
"Make peace, you fools"

red headed stranger

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,263
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #241 on: January 31, 2013, 08:22:21 PM »
Cerberus is getting out of guns?  When did this happen?  They're private equity and have no storefront.  They're practically untouchable by mobs of nagging sign carriers, and divorced from the actual firearms companies by about 2 levels of separation.

They announced it just a few days after the Newtown incident.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/cerberus-to-sell-gunmaker-freedom-group/

There are indications that Taurus is looking into buying Freedom Group:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-17/gun-ban-no-obstacle-to-taurus-bid-for-freedom-corporate-brazil.html
Those who learn from history are doomed to watch others repeat it

AZRedhawk44

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,987
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #242 on: February 01, 2013, 10:55:08 AM »
Taurus owning Remington and Marlin and Bushmaster?

Wow.  That'll make Savage rifles that much more desirable.  Who would want a Taurus-produced Remington 700?
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
--Lysander Spooner

I reject your authoritah!

Boomhauer

  • Former Moderator, fired for embezzlement and abuse of power
  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 14,364
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #243 on: February 01, 2013, 11:07:28 AM »
Quote
There are indications that Taurus is looking into buying Freedom Group:

Oh God no...and you thought Rem/Marlin has been falling down on quality lately...prepare for a whole new level of suck.



Quote from: Ben
Holy hell. It's like giving a loaded gun to a chimpanzee...

Quote from: bluestarlizzard
the last thing you need is rabies. You're already angry enough as it is.

OTOH, there wouldn't be a tweeker left in Georgia...

Quote from: Balog
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! AND THROW SOME STEAK ON THE GRILL!

AZRedhawk44

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,987
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #244 on: February 01, 2013, 11:13:23 AM »
That would pretty much kill the levergun, wouldn't it?

USRAC ("Winchester") folded 5-6 years ago.  I understand there are Japanese Winchester leverguns... the CASS western fetishists who like case hardening and octagon barrels and such buy these for four digits.

Marlin's the next big one.  I wouldn't buy a Taurus-Marlin.

Rossi, Puma... niche and small.  Do any of the Cimarron/Uberti spaghetti cowboy gun firms make lever guns?  Niche and small also, but something.

That USRAC plant needs to move its gear out to a right to work state and start cranking out sub-$500 Winchester 94's again.  They were $250-$300 before they folded, but Obama and Bush have been hard at work devaluing that dollar since then.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
--Lysander Spooner

I reject your authoritah!

Gewehr98

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,010
  • Yee-haa!
    • Neural Misfires (Blog)
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #245 on: February 01, 2013, 12:25:10 PM »
Production had already resumed by Miroku circa 2010.

I've handled new Model 94s at the local Cabelas. 

The prices are high, but the fit and finish blows away anything ever made in Connecticut. 

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/index.asp

If Taurus buys Remington, I see no change in production methods and quality. 

Folks will go home on Friday night as Cerberus employees, and come back Monday morning as Taurus employees...

(Winchester Model 70s were built under FN ownership for how many years?)
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

http://neuralmisfires.blogspot.com

"Never squat with your spurs on!"

HankB

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,713
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #246 on: February 01, 2013, 12:37:09 PM »
. . . Folks will go home on Friday night as Cerberus employees, and come back Monday morning as Taurus employees...
You do know what they say about products made on Friday afternoon or Monday morning, don't you?   :O
Trump won in 2016. Democrats haven't been so offended since Republicans came along and freed their slaves.
Sometimes I wonder if the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
Government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods. - H.L. Mencken
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,339
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #247 on: February 01, 2013, 12:44:21 PM »
You do know what they say about products made on Friday afternoon or Monday morning, don't you?   :O

Nice post.  For a Friday.   :lol:
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

red headed stranger

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,263
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #248 on: February 01, 2013, 01:04:59 PM »
I'm not so concerned about Taurus ruining these companies.  It will be an acquisition of a brand, and production will not likely move to Brazil.  Moreover, the new leadership at Taurus has been putting more resources into improving their QC, so this could potentially be a good acquisition of institutional knowledge for them.  In addition, Taurus has shown that they are with us in the RKBA fight, which is more than can be said for Cerberus.

My short list of "must get" firearms includes a Miroku-made '73.   :cool:
Those who learn from history are doomed to watch others repeat it

Blakenzy

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,020
Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #249 on: February 01, 2013, 03:09:02 PM »
Is Cerberus expecting sweeping gun restrictions that will ruin business?
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both"