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Research into medical marijuana
« on: March 13, 2014, 08:30:57 AM »
http://time.com/20775/sanjay-gupta-medical-marijuana-epilepsy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+timeblogs%2Ffashionweek+(TIME%3A+Fashion+Week+)

A very interesting article on how it can be difficult to figure out medical use of marijuana based on the lack of research.  As someone who works in healthcare and was trained as a scientist and in the law, I am used to doing research on questions.  When I am looking into a clinical issue, one of my first steps is to do a PubMed search to see what the medical literature says, and I put a lot of weight on the reputable scientific literature.  Anecdotal case reports and personal experience may be interesting and in some cases useful, but it is not the scientific gold standard. 

I think it would be a great thing for the Feds to reclassify marijuana from Schedule One, since this would really help open up the research floodgates.  It will be interesting to see if the marijuana users advocacy is backed up with actual data.
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Re: Research into medical marijuana
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 09:26:59 AM »
Hard to do research if you'd be arrested, jailed, and possibly never be able to work in healthcare again in doing said research.

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Re: Research into medical marijuana
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 09:28:03 AM »
The Ferals have too many lies invested in the marijuana thing for them to even consider changing its schedule. That's something that is going to have to be done at the state level defying the feral govt.

Alaska classifies MJ as a Schedule VI A controlled substance. Defined as having the lowest degree of danger or probable danger to a person or the public.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 10:48:28 AM »
Hard to do research if you'd be arrested, jailed, and possibly never be able to work in healthcare again in doing said research.

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Re: Research into medical marijuana
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2014, 10:51:45 AM »
Not to cause thread veer, but does smoking MJ present the same lung cancer risk as tobacco?  I have a picture in my mind of the tobacco lawyers rubbing their hands together just thinking about their new area of litigation.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2014, 10:54:04 AM »
Not to cause thread veer, but does smoking MJ present the same lung cancer risk as tobacco?  I have a picture in my mind of the tobacco lawyers rubbing their hands together just thinking about their new area of litigation.

I've always said that the tort lawyers could do more against MJ than the DEA ever could  :P
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Re: Research into medical marijuana
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 11:01:20 AM »

I think it would be a great thing for the Feds to reclassify marijuana from Schedule One, since this would really help open up the research floodgates.  It will be interesting to see if the marijuana users advocacy is backed up with actual data.

Not a drug user (other than nicotine, caffeine, and bacon) but I think that the Schedule system has done irreparable harm to med research.  The characteristics which land substances on the ZOMG! list could be immensely beneficial if used strategically for legitimate physician-directed medical purposes.

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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 11:13:36 AM »
"No research has ever shown that marijuana has any valid medical value." 

Saw a news report recently that a company extracted an oil from cannabis that reduced the frequency of daily severe seizures from 20-25 per day to like 2-3 mild ones.

I think it may have medical value. Just hasn't been figured out yet.

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 11:23:57 AM »
MJ has value for mitigating the effects of chemotherapy.  It increases appetite, reduces nausea, and contributes to a feeling of well-being. 

I don't know if the risk of lung cancer is any greater smoking marijuana than smoking cigarettes.  I doubt it, since the total quantity smoked tends to be significantly less than tobacco.  Plus there are other methods of ingesting THC than smoking.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 11:24:36 AM »
Saw a news report recently that a company extracted an oil from cannabis that reduced the frequency of daily severe seizures from 20-25 per day to like 2-3 mild ones.

I think it may have medical value. Just hasn't been figured out yet.

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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 11:35:52 AM »
Saw a news report recently that a company extracted an oil from cannabis that reduced the frequency of daily severe seizures from 20-25 per day to like 2-3 mild ones.

I think it may have medical value. Just hasn't been figured out yet.

The feds won't allow any research into MJ that might find valid medical value.  That's why none has been found.  

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 12:22:20 PM »
You missed the point  :facepalm:

Guess so. Maybe the dude they interviewed is in jail now.

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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2014, 02:00:47 PM »
Cannabis is supposed to have some very interesting anti-inflammatory properties. Reducing or avoiding the inflammatory response in lung tissue is supposed to work against the development of precancerous lesions and chronic respiratory diseases (example: enfisema)... which may very well be the reason why cancer and other illnesses have never been demonstrated by any measure to be associated with long term cannabis use. What I find interesting is that most of the medicinal properties that cannabis may have is found to be related to the non-THC cannabinoids... the reason synthetic Marinolâ„¢ is a total flop for patient relief when compared to the real deal. With the many, many, many active compounds in it, pure THC≠Cannabis.

Of course we aren't meant to find out everything there is to know about the devil weed.

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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 05:23:03 PM »
Smoking it is bad for your lungs. Says the guy with copd. And a believer in paraquat lung

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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 07:55:43 PM »
Smoking it is bad for your lungs. Says the guy with copd. And a believer in paraquat lung

How convenient that you don't actually have to smoke it.  Even my non-using self knows that you can always use a vaporizer or even eat it.

I've read enough to believe that MJ has valid medical uses.  There's even Marinol, a THC pill.  There has been research that shows it's less effective than the actual plant.

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How convenient that you don't actually have to smoke it.  Even my non-using self knows that you can always use a vaporizer or even eat it.

I've read enough to believe that MJ has valid medical uses.  There's even Marinol, a THC pill.  There has been research that shows it's less effective than the actual plant.

i think the best way is the oils.  and extracting em is diy able
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2014, 08:18:10 PM »
^^^ It is interesting you mention that.  Here in the Seattle area, there has been a recent uptick in the number of people exploding their houses trying to extract hash oil with flammable liquid solvents or butane.
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2014, 08:25:27 PM »
Isomizer. So easy a stoner can do it

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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2014, 09:21:55 PM »
i think the best way is the oils.  and extracting em is diy able

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2014, 10:31:16 PM »
Sautee in cooking oil works fine...so I've heard.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2014, 10:40:29 PM »
Sautee in cooking oil works fine...so I've heard.

saute is too high heat
maybe braize.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2014, 02:18:09 AM »
^^^ It is interesting you mention that.  Here in the Seattle area, there has been a recent uptick in the number of people exploding their houses trying to extract hash oil with flammable liquid solvents or butane.

Everything has it's risks. I'm sure regular grease fires are still far more common. And then there's spontaneous human combustion.

I just like to stick with the whole argument that the gov't shouldn't control the stuff period.
In terms of recreational use, it's not anyone's business if they really want another crutch along with tobacco and beer.
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2014, 06:08:57 PM »
It's pleasurable, and hard to tax when it can be grown anywhere, therefore illegal. How many other substances or plants are judged on medical benefit? :(
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2014, 09:36:14 PM »
Everything has it's risks. I'm sure regular grease fires are still far more common. And then there's spontaneous human combustion.


Agreed, but in general, grease fires don't (quite literally) blow up your house.  Most grease fires are manageable if you act correctly.  Explosions, not so much.   =)
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