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Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« on: June 06, 2016, 08:27:51 PM »
I did. I learned the hard way.

I live on what I euphemistically call a rock farm. I don't intentionaly farm anything, but every Spring, after the Winter frosts have gone wherever Winter frosts go for the summer, I have a new crop of rocks that have poked up just high enough above the surface to wreak havoc on the mower blades. I found a number of the new crop while mowing on Saturday, so this afternoon I set out to apply the usual correction: beat it into submission with a sledge hammer.

That usually breaks off a big enough chunk at the top that I'm good for several more years. Today I encountered a rock that didn't want to cooperate. The sledge hammer just bounced off it. (I'm not certain, but I'm fairly sure I could hear the rock laughing at me.)

So I reverted to Plan B: dig it up. That, too, was an abject failure. After getting the sides pretty well excavated, I tried using the shovel to pry the rock up. Ummm ... no. Not gonna happen.

On to Plan C: dig a larger and deeper hole adjacent, tip the rock into the deeper hole, and cover it up. That worked ... but my almost new Lowe's shovel is no longer almost new. In fact, it almost isn't a shovel. The little bit of prying I did against THE ROCK bent the tip so that it looks a lot like the pour spout of a measuring cup. I'll try beating it back into shape, but I suspect it's a lost cause.

Not a happy camper. Time to head to an Ace or True value store to buy a real shovel, one you can actually do work with.

Do not buy this shovel from Lowe's:
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2016, 08:31:15 PM »
Nothing wrong with the blade.  They just put too long a lever on it.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2016, 09:21:25 PM »
Nothing wrong with the blade.  They just put too long a lever on it.

No, standard length shaft. My brother and I dug and pried much bigger rocks with similar shovels when I was a teenager. The blade on this one is thinner, and must not have any temper in it.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2016, 09:22:33 PM »
No, standard length shaft. My brother and I dug and pried much bigger rocks with similar shovels when I was a teenager. The blade on this one is thinner, and must not have any temper in it.




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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2016, 09:31:45 PM »
Can't really tell from the picture, but what brand is it?
I don't think lowes carry's the same brands in every store.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2016, 10:51:48 PM »
And they all carry several grades. You can shovel sand for $9.00 or you can get one that laughs at abuse for $30. 00 or so.

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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 10:56:54 PM »
Is it too late for detcord?  How about high explosives in general?
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 10:59:46 PM »
And they all carry several grades. You can shovel sand for $9.00 or you can get one that laughs at abuse for $30. 00 or so.

Looks like I have a sand shovel.

Don't remember which brand it is.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 11:04:24 PM »
Is it too late for detcord?  How about high explosives in general?
no kidding, grandpa used to crack or lift borders with dynamite.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2016, 11:04:46 PM »
No, standard length shaft. My brother and I dug and pried much bigger rocks with similar shovels when I was a teenager. The blade on this one is thinner, and must not have any temper in it.
forged vs stamped
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2016, 11:47:44 PM »
forged vs stamped


Yeah.

I wish I still had my grandfather's shovel. I was away when he died, and I'm pretty sure my brother swooped in and appropriated ALL Grandpa's tools.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2016, 12:14:12 AM »


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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2016, 12:36:39 AM »
forged vs stamped



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Re: Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2016, 06:56:40 AM »
no kidding, grandpa used to crack or lift borders with dynamite.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2016, 07:46:28 AM »
no kidding, grandpa used to crack or lift borders with dynamite.

I guess that's one way to get across...
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2016, 08:44:07 AM »
Is it too late for detcord?  How about high explosives in general?

It's still common as dirt to crack rocks with ANFO. When I worked for a home builder, we indeed had an explosives company on our vendor list. They'd drill holes every X feet, fill with ANFO, connect with detcord, and shatter the rock. Low or lower end of high explosives are preferable to high explosives when cracking rock near urban areas or structures. You don't want the rock flying around and injuring people. You just want to shatter it enough for removal.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2016, 09:14:58 AM »
Some shovels have aluminum blades . . . I don't think they stand up very well to heavy duty use.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2016, 09:56:27 AM »
I've still got some tools I bought when I got married in 1966.  A Monkey Wards electric drill for example.  I've got a long handled shovel I bought in 1973 when we had a pool put in the backyard.  Used it to shovel stones for landscaping.  The point is now concave, but it still works for what I need it for.  I've got another shovel that I got when my dad passed away.  I'm not sure how old that one is...maybe older than me. (I'm 72.9) I have other tools of my fathers as well.  Hammers, drill bits, screw drivers, wrenches etc etc.  I know some of those are older than me.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2016, 10:29:58 AM »
In all fairness, a shovel from the "good old days" with real (grunt) forging of blood/sweat/tears in Cleveland or whatever might have failed or been badly bent too.

Right tool for the job, and all that...

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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2016, 10:30:35 AM »
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Never buy a shovel from Lowes

Or a vise.
The handles on Lowe's vises are also too long.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2016, 10:50:15 AM »
http://www.idealblasting.com/microblaster.aspx

Or there's a ton of info on microblasting using .30-06 and .45-70 blanks on caving sites.  Pretty much ideal when you just have one rock to bust up.

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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2016, 01:35:58 PM »
Or a vise.
The handles on Lowe's vises are also too long.

So, it's a vise vice?
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2016, 01:40:04 PM »
In all fairness, a shovel from the "good old days" with real (grunt) forging of blood/sweat/tears in Cleveland or whatever might have failed or been badly bent too.

Right tool for the job, and all that...

http://www.amazon.com/Temper-1160300-72-Inch-Pencil-Angelo/dp/B00004S1WX

Agree that or a spud bar: http://www.amazon.com/69-Inch-Digging-1160000-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B000VACVPG
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2016, 05:12:39 PM »
Monkey Wards...it's been a while since I heard that.  I wonder how many on this board remember shopping at one.
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Re: Never buy a shovel from Lowe's
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2016, 05:27:25 PM »
Monkey Wards...it's been a while since I heard that.  I wonder how many on this board remember shopping at one.


I don't recall ever shopping at one (not that I recall every place I was dragged to by my parents), but the internet says they were operating stores well into the '90s, so probably a lot of us do remember.
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