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Dear employee:

My risk management colleague up at the hospital called me this morning.  It is never good when a colleague starts the conversation: 'Do you know what one of your employees did?'.

It turns out that according to the hospital, you were acting as a doula for one of our OB patients, you billed the patient for this, and told the hospital and patient you were doing this as one of my employees.

You are a receptionist working for me.  You can be a doula on your own time, for someone who is not one of my patients.  You cannot be a doula on my time, especially when you are not employed as one by me, you cannot be a doula for one of my patients while working here, you certainly cannot charge one of my patients for your side job direct to you, and you cannot tell the patient and the hospital that this is part of your employment here.

This violates several ethical principles and HR policies.  I will be meeting with some people to confirm the facts relayed to me, and assuming they are correct, I will be moving directly to termination.  The hospital is not happy either and they are planning on trespassing you from their campus.  I hope the private doula practice can support you and your family, cause you are not going to be getting more paychecks from me.
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Re: Dear employee: I am writing out your termination papers. Prepare.
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2019, 05:55:34 PM »
And this is only the instance you know of, there are more because the doula loves the extra moolah. ;)

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 06:10:10 PM »
Billed the patient how exactly?
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 07:12:12 PM »
Billed the patient how exactly?

She handwrote out a bill for $ 500, handed it to the patient, and then accepted a personal check made out to her.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 07:54:10 PM »
That's not any worse than being in the hospital and having doctors who you don't know and have never seen before, not connected in any way to your primary physician, stop into your room and look at you chart and leave.  Then you find a $300.00 "consulting" fee bill in the mail.  I told my son to go to that doctor's office and walk in and look around and then send him a "consulting" fee bill and zero his out.
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Re: Dear employee: I am writing out your termination papers. Prepare.
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2019, 07:56:25 PM »
 ???  "DOULA? ?"   
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2019, 08:05:54 PM »
That's when you put two onealas together.  (I had to look it up, too.)

And this is only the instance you know of, there are more because the doula loves the extra moolah. ;)

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WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 10:06:58 AM »
???  "DOULA? ?"   

I went to public school as well so I had to google it.

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 10:27:21 AM »
I knew/know what a Doula is.... IMO  they can be a valuable part of the birth team or they can be a worthless lump of flesh who is hired because it is "the thing" to do with all the trendy preggers. Maybe I should become a Doula after I retire from nursing. I wonder if anyone would hire a grandfather Doula? I could name my business The Grampy Doula. Which could very easily be changed to The Grumpy Doula. ;)

Just because here is an article about a doula.

https://www.romper.com/p/male-doulas-want-to-assist-in-childbirth-but-would-you-hire-a-man-9571100


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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2019, 10:33:41 AM »
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WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 01:17:05 PM »
I went to public school as well so I had to google it.

Me too
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 03:18:17 PM »
I went to public school, and I didn't have to look that up.  :P
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2019, 03:57:52 PM »
So "midwife" just wouldn't cut it anymore and they had to update the name to something new and trendy?

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 04:00:10 PM »
So "midwife" just wouldn't cut it anymore and they had to update the name to something new and trendy?

Brad

Midwife is a different thing. Related, but different. And a nurse midwife is another thing.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2019, 04:01:53 PM »
Oh... so an Emotional Support Human, then.

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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2019, 04:22:28 PM »
Oh... so an Emotional Support Human, then.

Brad

That is actually not a bad description of a doula, and I am stealing it.  I guess you use a doula if you are affluent and don't have any local friends or family that can be there to support you during the delivery.  They certainly are not doing any clinical tasks.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2019, 04:27:22 PM »
Oh... so an Emotional Support Human, then.

Brad

To be fair, giving birth is a fairly emotional process, even more so without the aid of an epidural.

In my case the husband (me) was selected to do all the emotional support.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2019, 04:58:20 PM »
To be fair, giving birth is a fairly emotional process, even more so without the aid of an epidural.

In my case the husband (me) was selected to do all the emotional support.

Did you submit a handwritten bill for $500?
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2019, 05:15:55 PM »
Did you submit a handwritten bill for $500?

Or at least take it out in personal services?
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2019, 05:58:08 PM »
I went to publik skrool and the only reason I knew what a doula was due to Frazier. Last night they had an episode that featured a doula.

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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »

Learned something from a tv sitcom


Hey, I learned the difference between "stationery" and "stationary" from a Batman comic book when I was about nine years old.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2019, 06:56:44 PM »
Did you submit a handwritten bill for $500?

Short answer: no

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Or at least take it out in personal services?

Very much yes.

#2 was born a year and a half later...
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2019, 08:06:22 PM »
Short answer: no

Very much yes.

#2 was born a year and a half later...

So you waited 9 months to start collecting your fee? ???


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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2019, 08:12:06 PM »
So you waited 9 months to start collecting your fee? ???


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The problem with this concept is the different pricing scales used by the parties.  Personal services act A is valued by the husband at $ 25, while the wife values it at $ 150.  No way in heck am I paying $ 150 for personal services act A when I can find it at the local bar for $ 25. 
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2019, 08:24:19 PM »
So you waited 9 months to start collecting your fee? ???


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