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K Frame

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Would she be a co-conspirator?
« on: January 29, 2020, 01:05:53 PM »
For making online sites spread the disinformation about her Indian heritage?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/warren-proposes-criminal-penalties-for-spreading-disinformation-online.html
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2020, 01:38:08 PM »
Ahem ... First Amendment (cough, cough)
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2020, 02:09:49 PM »
Ahem... ^ (cough, cough)

In this day and age, any Amendment can be beaten into submission.

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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2020, 02:22:35 PM »
Punishing a corporation (or an individual) for saying the wrong thing is just a way of disguising the fact that the politicians are claiming the power to decide for themselves what the "right" thing* is.  She says "the stakes are too high", which is also a way of claiming power for herself.

* "right thing" - meaning their version of the truth
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2020, 02:39:28 PM »
I guess this law would leave in place the civil liability protections for companies like Google and Facebook. 
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2020, 03:07:01 PM »
Is she going to name Bill Cosby as her running mate?

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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2020, 12:16:03 AM »
Ahem ... First Amendment (cough, cough)

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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2020, 12:21:13 AM »
BuT It'S Limited.  FiRe In A ThEaTeR!! HuR HuR.

The First Amendment does NOT prevent anyone from yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater. In fact, the federal government can't do anything to you if you do so. Under the laws of the several states, if you falsely yell "Fire!" and people are injured in the ensuing panic, you can be prosecuted for causing a crisis, but you won't be punished directly because of what you said.
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2020, 12:30:12 AM »
The First Amendment does NOT prevent anyone from yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater. In fact, the federal government can't do anything to you if you do so. Under the laws of the several states, if you falsely yell "Fire!" and people are injured in the ensuing panic, you can be prosecuted for causing a crisis, but you won't be punished directly because of what you said.

I know that, and you know that, and I have used that explanation when people bring up First vs Second Amendment regulation (aka common sense regulation).  

However the crypto-commie poly-sci majors that are rousing themselves as we type to defend their party's most recent power grab are going to condescendingly explain that this doesn't violate the First Amendment because speech is already regulated in a number of ways.  That's their standard "Well Acksually" argument on all of these proposals.

Which is why I used the meme'd capitalization form and the characteristic "hur hur" of the crypto-commie.
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2020, 01:09:06 AM »
This kind of threw me for a moment:

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...commie poly-sci majors that are rousing themselves as we type to defend their parties most recent power grab are...

Until I read it aloud and changed "parties" to "party's."

No offense, but that was kind of a stumbling block. =D

THanks, Hawkmoon.  I always saw it that way.  The right is still there, but so are the consequences. It's like a lot of slick catchphrases... they sound good when you say them fast, but aren't 100% valid.
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2020, 05:28:57 AM »
Stupid autocorrect.   =D

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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2020, 11:12:39 AM »
Autocorrect is our worst enema.

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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2020, 11:23:44 AM »
I don't recall but I know it appears she checked Native A to gain favorably in entrance requirements but did she receive any grants and similar money based on that as well?
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Re: Would she be a co-conspirator?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2020, 07:41:42 PM »
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ElizabethWarrenAmIndian-1200x630.jpg

By now, this ^ is probably public domain.

Gaining favorably in entrance requirements can't be anything but money-related one way or another, sooner or later.




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