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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2650 on: September 18, 2023, 06:11:34 PM »
Apparently more flaming hoops to jump through

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Confirmations of the FWS in a statement to @NASASpaceflight
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- The FWS is considering the operation of a water deluge system in Starbase and its environmental effects.

- The FWS has up to 135 days to submit the final biological opinion to the FAA (Started in August).
https://twitter.com/BCCarCounters/status/1703873172997550381
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2651 on: September 19, 2023, 11:38:52 AM »
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LAUNCH! Rocket Lab Electron launches mission 41 - a launch for Capella Space - from Launch Complex 1 on the Mahia Peninsula in New Zealand.

Overview:
https://nasaspaceflight.com/2023/09/launch-roundup-091823/


Rocket Lab Livestream:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AfYFqs
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1704026672993894750

But
Camera cut out at 2nd stage ignition. May have gone BOOM!

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FAILURE. Staged, but the second stage appeared to have an issue at ignition. Anomaly has been called.
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1704027512756437279

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2652 on: September 19, 2023, 03:44:03 PM »
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Confirmations of the FWS in a statement to @NASASpaceflight
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- The FWS is considering the operation of a water deluge system in Starbase and its environmental effects.

- The FWS has up to 135 days to submit the final biological opinion to the FAA (Started in August).

This teases my cynical humor bone.

Anything within several hundred yards of the rocket is going to be permanently deaf after a launch as a best case scenario, and possibly pulverized by the sound wave as a worst case scenario.  Complaining about the use of a freshwater deluge system, which will minimally desalinate by a small percentage the immediate area around the launch mount, is ludicrous.

The water will have no impact on the environment that isn't already impacted by the blast and noise.

But... anything to drag this on for another 4 months!  Sheesh.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2653 on: September 19, 2023, 07:36:51 PM »
Scoot Manley (very) short look at Rocket Lab's failure.
Sparks shooting out above the engine bell.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/07bs3cT6tYY?feature=share
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2654 on: September 21, 2023, 10:56:46 AM »
May want to keep an eye on these guys. Stoke Space
https://twitter.com/TylerG1998/status/1703573267838038157

Company website
https://www.stokespace.com/

 Stoke Space flies reusable upper stage prototype
https://spacenews.com/stoke-space-flies-reusable-upper-stage-prototype/

Looks similar to a prototype that flew in the 1990's.  At least I think it was a 1/3 scale prototype then.

Scott Manley with more info

One engine, 30 nozzles, integrated in a heat shield

Rocket Scientist Combine A Rocket Engine With A Heat Shield - Can They Revolutionize Space Launch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V6lfs7xFJM
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2655 on: September 21, 2023, 11:26:41 AM »
Removing the Hot Staging Ring (HSR) on B9 on the live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2656 on: September 21, 2023, 11:30:30 AM »
Not sure if this means there's an issue or they're just taking the time to do some more fiddling while they're waiting on a launch license
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2657 on: September 21, 2023, 09:41:57 PM »
Appears the Chinese had a failure of their own. No details of course.

https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/launch/ceres-1-jilin-1-high-resolution-04b/
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2658 on: September 22, 2023, 04:51:44 PM »
Appears the Chinese had a failure of their own. No details of course.

https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/launch/ceres-1-jilin-1-high-resolution-04b/

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This allegedly is from yesterday’s failed Ceres-1 launch; looks like the failure came early during 1st stage flight. Something definitely blew and then either FTS reacted, or it simply disintegrates.

Rumors has that the sat has up to 0.3 m resolution…

https://bilibili.com/video/BV1qC4y1
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1705112658310300013
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2659 on: September 23, 2023, 12:46:04 PM »
Marcus House with his weekly update

Of note is the current estimate of the cost of new RS-25 engines (SLS), upwards of $100 million a pop and one use only in the case of the SLS.
Meanwhile SpaceX's Raptor, which is reusable, cost is estimate to be in the neighborhood of $1 million each.
Let that sink in for a moment.  :facepalm:

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2660 on: September 24, 2023, 10:13:22 AM »
Watching a live feed of the Osiris-REx sample return and getting the impression from the coverage this is a 99% woman run project. Many look like they weren't even born yet when the project started.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2661 on: September 24, 2023, 10:53:30 AM »
Touchdown.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2662 on: September 24, 2023, 05:00:03 PM »
With the booster landing today Space X now has two with 17 launch's on them.
Sometimes we carry more weight then we owe.
And sometimes goes on and on and on.

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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2663 on: September 26, 2023, 10:19:47 AM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2664 on: September 27, 2023, 11:21:09 AM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2665 on: September 27, 2023, 06:04:41 PM »
In BO news the FAA has  closed it investigation into New Shepard mishap

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FAA Statement on closure to the New Shepard mishap investigation:

"The FAA has closed the Blue Origin New Shepard 23 mishap investigation. The final report cites the proximate cause of the Sept. 12, 2022, mishap as the structural failure of an engine nozzle caused by higher-than-expected engine operating temperatures. The FAA required Blue Origin implement 21 corrective actions to prevent mishap reoccurrence, including redesign of engine and nozzle components to improve structural performance during operation as well as organizational changes.

During the mishap the onboard launch vehicle systems detected the anomaly, triggered an abort and separation of the capsule from the propulsion module as intended and shut down the engine.  The capsule landed safety and the propulsion module was destroyed upon impact with the ground. All debris landed within the designated hazard area. Public safety was maintained at all times with  no injuries or public property damage."
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Addition notes on the FAA e-mail:

The closure of the mishap investigation does not signal an immediate resumption of New Shepard launches. Blue Origin must implement all corrective actions that impact public safety and receive a license modification from the FAA that addresses all safety and other applicable regulatory requirements prior to the next New Shepard launch.

Background:

The  FAA oversaw the Blue Origin-led investigation to ensure the company complied with its FAA-approved mishap plan, the terms and conditions of its license and other regulatory requirements.

The  FAA was involved in every step of the mishap investigation and granted  NASA and the National Transportation Safety Board official observer status.

The mishap investigation report contains proprietary data and U.S Export Control information and is not available for public release.

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1707140096657408032
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2666 on: September 27, 2023, 06:12:01 PM »
BO has also recently got rid of their CEO Bob Smith, in favor of Dave Limp.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/25/blue-origin-ceo-bob-smith-out-replaced-by-outgoing-amazon-exec-dave-limp.html
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2667 on: September 29, 2023, 03:36:24 PM »
More BO news
BO and Sierra looking to part ways on the Orbital Reef project

Blue Origin, Sierra Space weigh future of Orbital Reef space station as partnership turns rocky
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/blue-origin-sierra-space-orbital-reef-space-station-in-limbo.html

AA puts the blame petty much all on BO

Blue Orgin dumps NASA contract with Sierra Space?! Plus, ESA and RFA's new ship!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF8NYMPn4Ns
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2668 on: September 29, 2023, 07:40:00 PM »
Not entirely unexpected but Chandrayaan-3 hasn't woken up after going to sleep during the lunar night

Lunar Daylight Dawns, yet India’s Moon Lander and Rover Have Failed To Wake Up
https://scitechdaily.com/lunar-daylight-dawns-yet-indias-moon-lander-and-rover-have-failed-to-wake-up/

Here's Anton with more info

Waited Long Enough, The India's Moon Mission Is Over. Here's What It Found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCazCzXHbcA


Meanwhile China is trying to piss on India's moon mission.
Considering we've photographed the lander they're full of *expletive deleted*it but it's not uncommon for China to bad mouth India's space program.

Top Chinese scientist disputes India's Moon landing near south pole
https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/science/chinese-scientists-questions-chandrayaan-3-s-landing-near-moon-s-south-pole/story
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2669 on: September 29, 2023, 07:45:17 PM »
AA puts the blame petty much all on BO

Blue Orgin dumps NASA contract with Sierra Space?! Plus, ESA and RFA's new ship!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF8NYMPn4Ns

I'm underwhelmed with Angry Astronaut and question his assertions/sources.  I'm perfectly happy to bag on Jeff Who and Sue Origin just like the next guy, but I don't think he has the engineering rigor or insider information to really dissect issues related to who bailed on who.

Take the video he linked about RFA and their Argo vehicle.  He just whimsically asserts that Argo is vehicle agnostic and it has a 3400kg capacity to LEO and is reusable.  This is a ridiculous thing to claim since staging altitude and velocity of reusable boosters is in no way standardized at this point, since Falcon 9 is the only game in town and generally stages about 73km but with considerably different (sub)orbital velocities depending on trajectory and where recovery of the booster is planned.  Neutron is anticipated to stage higher than Falcon 9, around 90km, but is still in design phase and uses an extremely bespoke and unconventional second stage, where the fairing is attached to the booster stage and the fairing opens to release the 2nd stage and payload at MECO.  New Glenn has been getting different design objectives faster than the engineers can satisfy them (redirection to "Jarvis" before the flight of a single prototype) and staging altitude is going to be very difficult to manage with the payload mass they are claiming and second stage reusability they are claiming.  The likelihood of all these rockets staging at the same altitude, or within an acceptable range of one another to be compatible with Argo and whatever vaporware booster RFA is claiming they will build, is very small.

When he does start talking about BO and Orbital Reef, he only cites the CNBC article on it, then launches into supposition and snark with no sources for the snark.

Here's the real truth about Orbital Reef:  No one in the space industry actually thought it was going to happen anyways, because:
1. The launch provider chosen has yet to lift a single kilogram into LEO
2. The crew capsule provider chosen has yet to lift a single human being into LEO and is years late and over contract cost on their ISS capsule
3. The Bezos animosity towards Musk means BO will not gracefully eat crow like Orbital did in 2014 when Antares failed and shift payloads to another vendor
4. Even if the above points are all hammered out, Axiom is beating everyone to the punch. 

There is currently no data to demonstrate the viability of a space station as an economic resource.  As such, there's definitely no data to demonstrate the viability of competing space stations and the market's capability to sustain both.  Orbital Reef was doomed to fail because it had zero chance of being first (Axiom already has modules in place on the ISS that can be released to serve as its own free-flying station, and it'll just get bigger as they add modules).  Axiom has already flown multiple tourist and private science missions to the ISS, using their own attached modules to provide lodging and workspace.

Like I said, I lurvs me some anti-BO banter, but I don't like it in my space news.  He intermixes his editorialization with his reporting way too much.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2670 on: September 29, 2023, 07:55:30 PM »
I'm underwhelmed with Angry Astronaut and question his assertions/sources.  I'm perfectly happy to bag on Jeff Who and Sue Origin just like the next guy, but I don't think he has the engineering rigor or insider information to really dissect issues related to who bailed on who.


I've noted before he has a very bad habit of over dramatizing some things first one way then the other. Doesn't mean he's wrong all the time but it does seem to effect his videos sometimes. I just included him in this case to include a counter viewpoint, right or wrong I don't know yet. Sometimes he is right but you've got to have filters up. To be honest sometimes he irritates the *expletive deleted*it out of me.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2671 on: October 05, 2023, 08:18:42 AM »
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2672 on: October 05, 2023, 09:20:55 AM »
Reportedly going to be destacking in a bit

Live feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2673 on: October 05, 2023, 09:22:55 AM »
Another destacking.  I wonder if they got word that the launch license isn't going to be released anytime soon.  I understand Biden is pissed at Musk again because of his visit to the border.  I suppose we'll know when they start hanging blue tarps over the top of the booster after the destacking.
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Re: SpaceX News
« Reply #2674 on: October 05, 2023, 09:40:41 AM »
Could be just taking the time while they wait to do some more tweaking.

On a side note they do have to destack to arm the FTS since the booms can't reach that high. Maybe Musk should have included an access arm or two when they build the tower. Guess they can be added later.


Edit: spelled Musk Muck  :rofl:
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