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The coming population bust
« on: May 23, 2021, 09:33:32 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.html

So I wonder what implications this will have for US immigration policy. 
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 09:36:58 AM »
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2021, 10:45:01 AM »
Would it be funny if in 1000 years north America was was primarily Amish, Hutterite, fundamentalist LDS and other high fertility sects?    :lol:

Secular people have abysmal fertility rates.

Google "Shall the religious inherit the earth?"

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2021, 10:56:51 AM »
1978: The earth is freezing! We're all going to die!
2021: The earth is burning We're all going to die!

1978: We're out of oil! We're all going to die!
2021: We have too much oil! We're all going to die!

1978: The population is exploding! We're all going to die!
2021: The population is dropping! We're all going to die!

I'm out of *expletive deleted*s to give
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2021, 11:32:44 AM »
Would it be funny if in 1000 years north America was was primarily Amish, Hutterite, fundamentalist LDS and other high fertility sects?    :lol:

Secular people have abysmal fertility rates.

Google "Shall the religious inherit the earth?"

That reminds me of the Quiverfull people.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2021, 12:10:58 PM »
1978: The earth is freezing! We're all going to die!
2021: The earth is burning We're all going to die!

1978: We're out of oil! We're all going to die!
2021: We have too much oil! We're all going to die!

1978: The population is exploding! We're all going to die!
2021: The population is dropping! We're all going to die!

I'm out of *expletive deleted*s to give

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2021, 12:45:55 PM »
On the plus side there will be fewer busybodies around to bug me and get all up in my business.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2021, 12:50:41 PM »
Population bust?

Can we speed this up a bit?  I'm not a fan of people.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2021, 12:52:44 PM »
Population bust?

Can we speed this up a bit?  I'm not a fan of people.

Where's Genghis Khan when you need him?
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2021, 12:57:54 PM »
Population bust?

Can we speed this up a bit?  I'm not a fan of people.

Right there with you, brother.  :laugh:


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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2021, 03:22:45 PM »
That reminds me of the Quiverfull people.

That reminds me how sane and reasonable the fringey elements of the right are, compared to what's mainstream on the left.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2021, 03:30:47 PM »
Where's Genghis Khan when you need him?

On the moon.

https://youtu.be/p8W9tObWc3o
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2021, 05:23:41 PM »
Would it be funny if in 1000 years north America was was primarily Amish, Hutterite, fundamentalist LDS and other high fertility sects?    :lol:

Secular people have abysmal fertility rates.

Google "Shall the religious inherit the earth?"

I hope this isn't the first time anybody has noticed this.

A fundamental precept of many groups is to populate, populate, populate.  The injunction to "go forth and multiply" has been fulfilled.  It would be time to backtrack  on that except it would be contrary to many groups' hopes to achieve political ascendency by force of numbers.

You don't need 1000 years to show how this works.

In a popuation of 1500, neglecting death rates and other variables:

Group A has a population of 1000 and a birth rate of  1% a year.

Group B has a population of 500 and a birth rate of 5% a year.

Goup B's population will slightly exceed Group A in 18 years to the tune of 1203 versus 1196.

1000 X 1.0118 = 1196  (Group A)
500 X 1.0518 = 1203   (Group B)

If my arithmetic is correct.

At that point, Group A better watch their collective asses.  Majority rules, after all, in a true democracy.  There is no longer "The Queen's Loyal Opposition" or "an influential Minority," there is only "my way or the highway re-education furnaces."

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WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2021, 09:16:22 PM »
The welfare, criminal and druggie shitheads are however multiplying like rabbits
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2021, 09:30:12 PM »
The welfare, criminal and druggie shitheads are however multiplying like rabbits

Only because there's an active tax payer funded support structure supporting them. Remove that support and they'll be eating each other within days.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2021, 09:34:04 PM »
The welfare, criminal and druggie shitheads are however multiplying like rabbits

https://youtu.be/Dwx4-jNLnhc
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2021, 11:15:58 PM »
Right there with you, brother.  :laugh:


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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2021, 08:11:48 AM »
Double post
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WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2021, 08:18:50 AM »
I KNEW it would be a Hu link. 

Good stuff.

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2021, 08:38:07 AM »
The welfare, criminal and druggie shitheads are however multiplying like rabbits

<rant>

That's how come there's the expression,

"The people who work for a living are being overwhelmed by the people who vote for a living."

I believe we have already reached an unrecoverable tipping  point in terms of "the tyranny/ of the majority."
 
And since increasingly, politicians have to pander to this voting bloc to get re-elected, institute strict term limits for every public office and the hell with the negative consequences of this.

</rant>

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WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2021, 09:05:12 AM »
1978: The earth is freezing! We're all going to die!
2021: The earth is burning We're all going to die!

1978: We're out of oil! We're all going to die!
2021: We have too much oil! We're all going to die!

1978: The population is exploding! We're all going to die!
2021: The population is dropping! We're all going to die!

I'm out of *expletive deleted*s to give
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There is probably other stuff about acid rain or other environmental calamities. 
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2021, 09:05:52 AM »

And since increasingly, politicians have to pander to this voting bloc to get re-elected, institute strict term limits for every public office and the hell with the negative consequences of this.


You're preaching to the choir, brother. Can I get an "Amen" to that?

For several decades I have advocated -- and mostly practiced -- simply voting against the incumbent in any election for a position that doesn't have term limits. If they won't enact term limits, it's up to us, the voters, to impose term limits through the ballot box. There is the possibility that always voting against the incumbent may occasionally vote out someone who is competent, but the odds are against that and I think establishing the principle is more important. And, of course, in any election in which the challenger is so odious that their election just can't be allowed, it's always possible to make an exception and vote for an incumbent.
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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2021, 09:59:03 AM »
The welfare, criminal and druggie shitheads are however multiplying like rabbits

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Re: The coming population bust
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2021, 10:34:24 AM »
1978: The earth is freezing! We're all going to die!
2021: The earth is burning We're all going to die!

1978: We're out of oil! We're all going to die!
2021: We have too much oil! We're all going to die!

1978: The population is exploding! We're all going to die!
2021: The population is dropping! We're all going to die!

I'm out of *expletive deleted*s to give


Yeah, but you're gonna die...

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