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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #125 on: September 28, 2022, 10:36:56 AM »

I think bedlamite, and many other pro-lifers would like to see a flat out abortion ban, but recognize that right now it simply won’t happen.  In January after the new Congress is sworn in, if there are sufficient majorities in both houses to pass a ban they’ll be much more ok with it.  Whereas right now, all introducing a ban will accomplish is energizing the left to vote.  Waiting in that case is actually more productive because it makes a partisan mix amenable to a ban more likely.

This isn't a flat out abortion ban.  It only starts banning abortion at 15 weeks gestation.

Most voters (barely) in a poll agree with this potential ban!



https://morningconsult.com/2022/09/21/voters-divided-lindsey-graham-abortion-ban/

The GOP is afraid to try stopping killing of some unborn children, a move that most voters agree with! 

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #126 on: September 28, 2022, 12:00:28 PM »
Federal laws against abortion are perfectly constitutional.  It is right there in the 14th amendment. 

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The 14th was written, in part, because Democrats were allowing black Americans to be terrorized and killed.  The 14th Amendment prohibits allowing states to legalize killing of innocent people.  Ordinarily, there is no federal role in prosecuting murder cases.  When states allow innocent people to be killed, then the Federal government has a role to prevent the states from doing this.

This is exactly what most states are doing now with unborn people.

Would the Supreme Court agree with me?  No.  I am I right?  Sure, I am.  It is right there in plain English.  States can't let innocent people be killed.  And stabbing someone in the base of her skull with scissors, and sucking out her brains at seven months gestation counts as "depriving someone of life" in my book.

Just to reenforce what you said, notice it specifically says "any person", not any citizen.  (the unborn are not citizens yet)  Lindsay Graham is still not your friend for introducing this bill at this time.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #127 on: September 28, 2022, 03:39:10 PM »
  Lindsay Graham is still not your friend for introducing this bill at this time.

You may be right, I don't know.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #128 on: September 28, 2022, 03:53:35 PM »
You may be right, I don't know.

Graham is not a friend of anyone remotely conservative
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #129 on: September 28, 2022, 04:01:25 PM »
"Person"  That's the rub.  Not everyone agrees on the start of that.  (Note: I'm stating a fact, not my belief on the beginning of personhood.  Don't @ me)

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #130 on: September 28, 2022, 04:08:43 PM »
"A person's a person, no matter how small"



(Dr Seuss was pissed when pro-lifers latched onto that because he didn't really mean it)

Only God himself knows when personhood is bestowed, so we have to give the proto-person benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #131 on: September 28, 2022, 07:59:47 PM »
I think he did it to show that democrats won't vote for anything but no restrictions. Several states stirred up the dem base more by going full ban before the midterms.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #132 on: September 28, 2022, 08:02:28 PM »
"Person"  That's the rub.  Not everyone agrees on the start of that.  (Note: I'm stating a fact, not my belief on the beginning of personhood.  Don't @ me)

Too bad!  I was all set to refute you.   :-[

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2022, 04:54:46 PM »
Got to secure the pot smokers's vote

Biden pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-pardoning-all-prior-federal-offenses-simple-marijuana-possession
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #135 on: October 11, 2022, 09:48:50 AM »
Got to secure the pot smokers's vote

Biden pardoning all prior federal offenses of simple marijuana possession
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-pardoning-all-prior-federal-offenses-simple-marijuana-possession
I am curious just how many people that applies to.  Perhaps there were more people hit with that in past decades. 
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« Reply #136 on: October 11, 2022, 09:51:07 AM »
I saw Tulsi Gabbard just told the democratic party to get bent.
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« Reply #137 on: October 11, 2022, 10:21:39 AM »
Nothing to see here

Colorado 'Mistakenly' Sent 30,000 Postcards to Noncitizens Urging Them to Register to Vote
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2022/10/11/colorado-mistakenly-sent-30000-postcards-to-noncitizens-urging-them-to-register-to-vote-n2614321
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #139 on: October 13, 2022, 09:16:14 AM »
If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy

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This is an excellent point. Repubs will tank the economy to deny a Dem president a win & keep Dems from holding the White House.

When Repubs have the White House & Congress, they enact their bad policies like tax cuts for the super rich & privatizing the social safety net.
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1580358024941961216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1580358024941961216%7Ctwgr%5E0f725b92ec2611bb08980670a3bd043c3dd10505%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsamj-3930%2F2022%2F10%2F13%2Fare-you-high-chris-hayes-says-he-feels-confident-if-republicans-win-congress-theyll-sabotage-bidens-economy-and-lol-watch%2F

Yeah, these people are completely out of touch
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #140 on: October 14, 2022, 12:48:29 PM »
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #141 on: October 14, 2022, 08:20:35 PM »
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #142 on: October 14, 2022, 08:29:33 PM »
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...

It's not funny because almost everyone in the large population centers and a lot of other people who ought to know better believe that crap.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #143 on: October 14, 2022, 10:07:56 PM »
"If the Rs win they will sabotage the economy"

You know, no matter what kind of response any of us come up with, it will never be funnier than the desperate *expletive deleted*it the Democrats are coming up with...

I don't know if this is funny, but it's a reply I left on YouTube.

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I hope a lot of far-left voters hear that Republicans are going to out-Herod Biden in sabotaging the economy. They'll all vote Republican at least twice.

If the other Dem media is clever enough, they'll also run with this, just to set up the narrative that whatever else goes wrong with the economy is GOP "obstruction." They will also use that to pressure Republicans into giving them bipartisan cover for the Dem agenda, next term.

And no sooner did I have that thought, than I saw a clip of Biden claiming a GOP House would make inflation worse.  ;/
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« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2022, 10:48:40 AM »
Accuracy unknown, but interesting if accurate:

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Most important issues facing the country:
37% Inflation
29% Economy
23% Immigration

What issues do you think GOP is focused on?
37% Immigration
24% Inflation
21% Economy

What issues are Dems focused on?
27% Jan 6
25% Women's rights
23% Climate Change

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/15/eye-opening-thread-explains-why-dems-are-facing-a-self-inflicted-midterm-shellacking/
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #145 on: October 15, 2022, 11:11:30 AM »
I've got my fingers crossed that's going to hold true...

Well, I've got my fingers crossed on the days when I can cross my fingers... :rofl:
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #147 on: November 06, 2022, 10:55:05 AM »
They are really pushing this inflation and crime is just republican propaganda 

Blue-check says violent crime is NOT up (other than ya’ know, MURDER) and HELLO backfire
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/06/blue-check-says-violent-crime-is-not-up-other-than-ya-know-murder-and-hello-backfire/
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« Reply #148 on: November 06, 2022, 11:30:17 AM »
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #149 on: November 06, 2022, 02:07:55 PM »
Gee, there's a correlary for you, Bette...

If you want to live in a country run by filthy socialists, move to Venezuela.

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