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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #450 on: May 22, 2024, 05:57:29 PM »
Given Qualified Immunity, it's just coming out of Texas' taxpayers pockets, or Federal taxpayer pockets.
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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #451 on: May 26, 2024, 03:57:20 PM »
James Reeves looking at the DD lawsuit
He thinks given what happened to Bushmaster with the Sandy Hook lawsuits DD may be in trouble.
Also of note they're also suing Facebook, for allowing DD to have a page and ads I suppose, and Activision for including a DD rifle in Call of Duty.

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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #452 on: June 06, 2024, 05:58:47 PM »
FedEx and UPS also being sued over the Uvalde massacre:

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/uvalde-school-shooting-fedex-ups-lawsuits-19498710.php

(source is not The Babylon Bee, so apparently it's serious)

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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #453 on: June 06, 2024, 06:15:52 PM »
FedEx and UPS also being sued over the Uvalde massacre:

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/uvalde-school-shooting-fedex-ups-lawsuits-19498710.php

(source is not The Babylon Bee, so apparently it's serious)

Among other crazy stuff in the suit:

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The suit also contends that FedEx, before shipping the rifle, should have sent a signed, sworn statement about the purchase to the shooter’s home and waited until it got back a receipt confirming delivery.
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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #454 on: June 06, 2024, 06:42:39 PM »
I must be missing something.  Wouldn't the rifle be shipped to the FFL and not to the buyer's home?
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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #455 on: June 06, 2024, 06:49:28 PM »
I must be missing something.  Wouldn't the rifle be shipped to the FFL and not to the buyer's home?

The article even says it was shipped to the FFL. I've never looked to see how it works, but I assume that internet purchases are shipped with an address label that says, to: "XYZ Firearms", not "XYZ Firearms, ATTN: Joe Blow customer". Which would mean there is no way for the shipper to know where to send the theoretical "shipping consent form".
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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #456 on: June 06, 2024, 07:36:37 PM »
Also of note in that

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It also focuses on the gunman's online purchase of a Hellfire Gen 2 snap-on trigger system, which converts a firearm from semi-automatic to fully automatic. The shooter was underage when he bought the attachment, but UPS shipped it to Uvalde anyway, according to the lawsuit.

A google search brought this up

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In the aftermath of the shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, law enforcement recovered a Hellfire trigger device from one of the classrooms where the massacre took place. The device – nearly identical to a bump stock – allows a semi-automatic rifle to fire at a rate similar to a fully automatic machine gun. In 2019, ATF prohibited the manufacture, sale, and possession of bump stocks, which were used in the deadly 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas.
Congressman Castro Leads Call for ATF to Prohibit Sales of Hellfire Trigger Devices
https://castro.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-castro-leads-call-for-atf-to-prohibit-sales-of-hellfire-trigger-devices

On one hand they say it converts a gun to fully automatic and also say it allows a rate of fire similar to a full automatic. Make up your minds guys.

I suppose this is the device in question

Hellfire: The Uvalde Shooter Owned a Device That Makes AR-15s Even More Deadly
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/uvalde-shooting-hellfire-gun-control-ar15-1368407/


Also found this ad. Is that even a real ad? Looks like something you used to find in the back pages of comic books.

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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #457 on: June 06, 2024, 07:43:38 PM »
And as far as him being underage even they admit in the article he wasn't but they did say that doesn't matter because....

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According to a Texas House committee report on the massacre, the gunman went online to buy two assault rifles — including the one he used at Robb Elementary — immediately after he turned 18 on May 16, 2022, a week before the shooting. The minimum age for such purchases is 18.

The lawsuit says that regardless, FedEx had a legal obligation to verify the buyer's age before shipping the weapon and failed to do so.
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Re: Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooting
« Reply #458 on: June 27, 2024, 07:41:22 PM »
Police chief and another officer charged with child endangerment

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The criminal charges against the former police are the first in connection with what was the deadliest school shooting in Texas history.

District Attorney Christina Mitchell revealed in January that she had convened a grand jury to weigh possible charges.

Uvalde school police chief Pedro Arredondo and another officer are charged with child endangerment over school massacre that saw shooter Salvador Ramos kill 21
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13577921/Uvalde-police-chief-Pedro-Arredondo-indicted-school-massacre.html
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