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More Youtube Gun Censorship
« on: June 15, 2024, 08:58:43 AM »
Youtube is apparently ramping up their already ongoing firearm censorship. I saw a couple of guntuber vids that talked about the guidelines they're getting making these "enhancements" much more difficult to follow. I note in the article below that Youtube says that they "consult with outside experts in the field" to ensure they are "drawing the line at the right place". I'm sure we can guess who many of the "experts" are.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/gun-rights-group-accuses-youtube-pushing-ominous-narrative-new-policy-firearms-content
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2024, 01:20:56 PM »
Interesting, because I was seeing a commercial for Hempvana, a pain relieving cream "starring" a SGT Markham, which showed him doing a little shooting with a bolt rifle and in a handgun competition.

I was pleased seeing that as an "inroad" to the anti gunner's little stupid world, but about a week or so ago all of a sudden the commercial had changed, still with him as the "star," but zero shooting.

Are the stupid people winning after all?

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This is a sanitized version:
https://www.ispot.tv/ad/6r1f/hempvana-will-markham-the-pain-is-gone

I can't find a copy with him shooting.

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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2024, 03:43:34 PM »
YT has said no full auto so here's Brandon Herrera giving YT the middle finger, sort of*, with a Ma Duce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bGSLAVoRhQ

*It's semi

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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2024, 04:08:53 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 10, 2024, 03:43:34 PM
YT has said no full auto so here's Brandon Herrera giving YT the middle finger, sort of*, with a Ma Duce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bGSLAVoRhQ

*It's semi
If you know this, then I'm sorry, but in case you missed the tounge in cheek:

That's a Full Auto M2.  An M2 has a mode selector that lets you run it in single shot mode and locks the bolt to the rear, forcing you to hit the bolt release (that button in the middle of the butterfly trigger) to send the bolt home and chamber the next round.  In the shots where Brandon is holding the trigger and getting one shot, it's in single shot mode.

In the wide shot's where he's "pulling the trigger really fast" he's put it back in auto and it's shooting automatically. 

FWIW, if your interested the "selector" is just a metal clip that holds the bolt release button down.  An M2 fires from a closed bolt, unlike most other beltfed's in US Inventory.
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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2024, 04:14:08 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on July 10, 2024, 04:08:53 PM
If you know this, then I'm sorry, but in case you missed the tounge in cheek:

That's a Full Auto M2.  An M2 has a mode selector that lets you run it in single shot mode and locks the bolt to the rear, forcing you to hit the bolt release (that button in the middle of the butterfly trigger) to send the bolt home and chamber the next round.  In the shots where Brandon is holding the trigger and getting one shot, it's in single shot mode.

In the wide shot's where he's "pulling the trigger really fast" he's put it back in auto and it's shooting automatically. 

FWIW, if your interested the "selector" is just a metal clip that holds the bolt release button down.  An M2 fires from a closed bolt, unlike most other beltfed's in US Inventory.

No I took him serious and didn't look any closer when he said it was a semi and he said he also owns a full auto M2.
I can count the number of times I've shot a M2 with just the fingers on one foot.
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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2024, 04:21:32 PM »
Don't tell YT
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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2024, 05:00:03 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 10, 2024, 04:14:08 PM
I can count the number of times I've shot a M2 with just the fingers on one foot.

You have fingers on your feet? Weirdo.

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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2024, 05:48:01 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on July 10, 2024, 04:14:08 PM
No I took him serious and didn't look any closer when he said it was a semi and he said he also owns a full auto M2.
I can count the number of times I've shot a M2 with just the fingers on one foot.

That's why I went ahead and said something.  It's subtle unless you've shot one.  It makes the middle finger to YT funnier IMO.
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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2024, 06:11:28 PM »
Man does Google suck. Hickok45, everybody's favorite grandpa, who has one of the most unassuming channels on youtube, has just had all his recent content pulled and may lose a bunch more.

Why? Because part of the new youtube rules are that no one can have channel sponsors who have anything to do with the firearms industry. Which is what, 99% of the sponsored youtube gun guys?

https://youtu.be/-KWxaOmVNBE
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2024, 06:20:02 PM »
Quote from: Brad Johnson on July 10, 2024, 05:00:03 PM
You have fingers on your feet? Weirdo.

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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2024, 07:18:57 PM »
Quote from: Ben on July 16, 2024, 06:11:28 PM
Man does Google suck. Hickok45, everybody's favorite grandpa, who has one of the most unassuming channels on youtube, has just had all his recent content pulled and may lose a bunch more.

Why? Because part of the new youtube rules are that no one can have channel sponsors who have anything to do with the firearms industry. Which is what, 99% of the sponsored youtube gun guys?

https://youtu.be/-KWxaOmVNBE

What's the name of that alternate video site that was created a while back in response to Google/YouTube's insane censorship?
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2024, 07:38:26 PM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 16, 2024, 07:18:57 PM
What's the name of that alternate video site that was created a while back in response to Google/YouTube's insane censorship?

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Re: More Youtube Gun Censorship
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2024, 10:16:21 PM »
Some of bigger youtube gun guys started a site.


https://www.pepperbox.tv/
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2024, 09:43:31 AM »
Guess YT will be upping the subscription fee a bit

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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2025, 12:27:51 PM »
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Why?  Because there's about 4 seconds of me using a Magpul D-60 PMAG in it.    You just can't make this *expletive deleted*it up....

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2025, 12:29:22 PM »
If it saves just one life...
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2025, 09:53:02 AM »
Broke on the Range got hit with a strike for some unknown reason on a video with a bolt action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6T2ae2-fwI
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2025, 09:11:36 AM »
Ian had a video from 14 years ago removed because he mentioned the name of the company that gave him the two boxes of the ammo he used in the video.

Video Censorship: Why I Re-Uploaded a Video From 2011 Today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxF5RmhvBWo

Here's the now censored video.

Shooting the British Farquhar-Hill Rifle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiaqWVZAnw

Now you should all feel safer now because the name of a company that makes 303 British ammo has been removed.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2025, 09:20:54 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2025, 11:22:34 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2025, 11:25:30 AM »
Ha! I just assumed there really was a "Broke on the Range" YouTube account. It's a great name!  :lol:
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2025, 12:24:49 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2025, 02:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Perd Hapley on January 08, 2025, 12:29:22 PM
If it saves just one life...
That argument no longer applies for Second Amendment application.

Supreme Court in Bruen already ruled that public safety/greater good of society interest balancing consideration went out the window for Bruen test/methodology (Like Heller threw out militia involvement for individual 2A/RKBA) reaffirmed in Rahimi and even reluctantly acknowledged by justice Jackson as "binding law of the land" - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1458590#msg1458590

This "2A supersedes pubic safety" memo is going around up and down the "inferior courts" and we are seeing "proper" application of Bruen test/methodology even by the perhaps the worst 2A court of 1st Circuit ruling - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1471685#msg1471685

Of course, YT/Google has mostly ignored that memo because it can but things are changing as "gun culture" now propagating among younger generations as cool righteous "self defense" against certain chaos and mayhem of society, even YT/Google may shift their position in the future.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2025, 03:42:22 PM »
This is not a 2A issue. It's not even (currently)  a 1A issue.  It's a "culture at a private company" issue.

Alphabet  (parent company of YouTube)  has no obligation (currently)  to allow any given speech on their platform. Section 230 of DMCA gives them wide legal protections.

I say (currently)  because a real case could be made that content moderation, removal, and algorithmic promotion combined actively curated the platform, and that as such Alphabet is a publisher.  This still wouldn't shake them to the 1A and make them stop treating gun goober like redheaded step children,  but it might force them to be more even handed about moderation lest they assume liability for content.

Another solid argument could be made that capricious moderation devalues the stock price, and as a publicly traded company they have a fiduciary duty not to allow feelings to dilute stock price. 

Both those arguments would take being willing to tackle a Battalion of lawyers to make though.

But in any case, Breen has no bearing on this at all.

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