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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #300 on: June 24, 2023, 01:56:50 PM »
Your lawyer, seeking only to make you whole …
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #301 on: June 24, 2023, 02:13:55 PM »
I'm sure there will be lawsuits, because that's what people do these days -- sue. Whether the lawsuits will get any traction is a different matter. I'm sure OceanGate is a corporation, so it could be interesting to see if the lawyers try to "pierce the corporate veil" and go after Rush's personal estate, or some of the other OceanGate employees and suppliers.

They'll have an uphill climb. It has already come out that multiple sources with expertise in submersible design and construction told Rush that his design was dangerous, and he dismissed their concerns as being unfounded. Any defense will probably start with the guy Rush fired in 2018 for having the audacity to suggest that they should have the hull tested.

Just found an article in which the guy who was scheduled to go on this dive -- with his son -- and who backed out says that Rush told him the trip was safer than crossing the street. As I said early on, it ultimately comes down to hubris. Rush obviously believed his toy was safe, but his fervent belief basically made him blind to reality.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/8440488/oceangate-stockton-rush-titan-sub-safe-half-price-tickets/
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #305 on: June 24, 2023, 05:01:30 PM »
Links is a URL, not an IMG.


I seem to recall you having issues viewing images before and I recall asking what you browser and settings were but don't think you ever answered. And why are your posts always in an odd font?
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #306 on: June 24, 2023, 06:07:45 PM »
Yeah, there is nothing to fix in those two posts. They both display properly.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #307 on: June 24, 2023, 06:08:59 PM »
Yeah, there is nothing to fix in those two posts. They both display properly.

I'm thinking he might be using an old way out of date browser
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #308 on: June 24, 2023, 06:11:01 PM »
I'm thinking he might be using an old way out of date browser

Hey man, Mosaic is the bomb.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #309 on: June 24, 2023, 06:16:25 PM »
Hey man, Mosaic is the bomb.

Thought it died 65 million years ago
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #310 on: June 24, 2023, 07:57:59 PM »
:facepalm: FIFY.

Fixed what? There was nothing broken about either of the posts you "fixed."
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #311 on: June 24, 2023, 09:07:10 PM »
As I read more articles and watch more videos, I'm seeing multiple statements that the Triton had dropped its ballast weights and was ascending.

How could anyone know this? They had lost contact with the surface. Where is his "information" coming from?
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #312 on: June 24, 2023, 09:08:13 PM »
As I read more articles and watch more videos, I'm seeing multiple statements that the Triton had dropped its ballast weights and was ascending.

How could anyone know this? They had lost contact with the surface. Where is his "information" coming from?

See reply 272

James Cameron unless he knows something that hasn't been released publicly basically pulled that little tidbit out of his arse. And since no one dares questions James Cameron, aka the submariner god, it must be true. Now if someone said it before him I don't know.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #313 on: June 25, 2023, 01:08:23 AM »
See reply 272

James Cameron unless he knows something that hasn't been released publicly basically pulled that little tidbit out of his arse. And since no one dares questions James Cameron, aka the submariner god, it must be true. Now if someone said it before him I don't know.

I will go with pulling it from his arse for 1000, host of the day.

Now he is saying the composite was most likely what failed. That is a good educated guess along with the Harboer Freight sourced  viewing port. I mentioned he really had no way of knowing what happened on another board and you would have thought I called the Pope a devil worshiper. I reiterated, while Saint James C (Lord of the undersea realm) might be able to make some good, even educated guesses he has no idea what happened or what they were doing because he just wasn't there to experience the full glory of incineration with the other blobs of fat. Holy Moly, some people just have no sense of humor.  =D  >:D

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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #314 on: June 25, 2023, 02:26:13 AM »
I seem to recall you having issues viewing images before and I recall asking what you browser and settings were but don't think you ever answered. And why are your posts always in an odd font?

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I didn't "get" your Reply # 281 and just assumed  either I was too stupid or the poster made the unwarranted assumption that everybody else in the world was a mind reader.

I ran out of my Mind Reader Rx about a year ago and I now ignore any obtuse or obscure posts on the theory they weren't worth "getting" anyway if I was too stupid to "dig" it or I needed to renew my mind reader Rx to "get" them.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #315 on: June 25, 2023, 08:25:27 AM »
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I didn't "get" your Reply # 281 and just assumed  either I was too stupid or the poster made the unwarranted assumption that everybody else in the world was a mind reader.

I ran out of my Mind Reader Rx about a year ago and I now ignore any obtuse or obscure posts on the theory they weren't worth "getting" anyway if I was too stupid to "dig" it or I needed to renew my mind reader Rx to "get" them.
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But then again, I ain;t perfekt neither.

Terry, 230RN

Had to go back and look.
Okay meme is two* famous billionaires that many dislike being poked to go visit the the Titanic. If you didn't already know who the two were and perhaps disliked them already then the meme won't be funny for you anyway. That's the way many jokes work. If it needs explaining it's not going be funny to you anyway. But nothing stops someone from asking. I do all the time if I don't get a joke. Like many movie references that are dropped here. I haven't seen all movies so many i don't get but I ask or roll with it.

*Bill Gates and George Soros BTW

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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #316 on: June 25, 2023, 09:06:23 AM »
^ OK.  Acknowledged as received.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #317 on: June 25, 2023, 09:10:06 AM »
Another version of that meme I've seen had Musk and Bezos
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #318 on: June 25, 2023, 09:16:36 AM »
^ Thanks for the additional example.  :eyeroll:  :LOL: :sarcasm-dripping:

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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #319 on: June 25, 2023, 09:18:24 AM »
Basically insert the people you don't like type meme.
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #320 on: June 25, 2023, 09:29:09 AM »
Behind a paywall, but the WSJ talks about how SOSUS, or the successor systems, picked up the implosion:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/titanic-titan-implosion-secret-military-technology-8c020e7b
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #321 on: June 25, 2023, 12:43:51 PM »
A really good summary of the incident including hard numerical data and hard engineering.

This guy is really good.

https://youtu.be/TKLamhyJ6bE (21:30 and worth it)
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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #322 on: June 25, 2023, 09:28:16 PM »


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Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing
« Reply #324 on: June 27, 2023, 07:46:36 AM »